Tough call, but will go ahead and scramble 2 fighters, 1 tac.
OOL: subs, DD, tac, cruiser, fighters
L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V
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@trulpen lol, those Russians where very hostile… and they would not have hesitated to kill any Germans around Moscow.
…and that Gibralter sub doesnt really have a good purpose, but it seemed like a good idea at the time and it was like “well I can, so maybe I should” -
@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
lol, those Russians where very hostile… and they would not have hesitated to kill any Germans around Moscow.
True, the russians would’ve snuffed anything that stuck its nose close to their hearth. Apart from that they were defenseless and innocent.
@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
…and that Gibralter sub doesnt really have a good purpose, but it seemed like a good idea at the time and it was like “well I can, so maybe I should”
You certainly can, but I think it’s advisable to not waste units. In this case it will likely have a very slim chance of making any damage on the defense. It might even not get any chance at all if for instance a sub hits it with first strike.
With the fleet it atleast functions as some fodder in an eventual attack.
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@trulpen yes, very true… with your blessing, I will retreat him. It did feel kind of good sticking him out there though…he was trying to look tuff
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oh and how are you guys liking that factory we built for you all in Egypt? You know that’s brand new… state of the art… never even used once
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@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
@trulpen yes, very true… with your blessing, I will retreat him. It did feel kind of good sticking him out there though…he was trying to look tuff
“Tuff” is actually how “tough” is spellt in Swedish. Sure, you may retreat the sub. Even though Germany is avalanching after crushing Russia, I felt the position of the sub was a bit unnecessary.
@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
oh and how are you guys liking that factory we built for you all in Egypt? You know that’s brand new… state of the art… never even used once
Oh, we simply adore it! We promise it will be put to much use, so you won’t feel it’s wasted at all. ;)
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@trulpen …so that’s how you spell tuff — tough… let me look it up:
Is it tuff or tough?
"Tough and tuff are two different words. Tough is the same as rough; tuff means cool, sharp–like a tuff-looking Mustang or a tuff record."Nov 14, 2017I guess thats what I meant, he (the sub) was trying to look cool and be intimidating. But you are very right, Germany does not really need him given there luck in Russia. So I will leave him and you can decide his fate
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@max334 ooops, the correct spelling is “their” luck
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia 1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus 1 armour moved from Stalingrad to Rostov Japanese take Rostov from Russians 1 armour moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus 1 tactical_bomber moved from Urals to Northern Caucasus 1 mech_infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey Japanese take Yenisey from Russians 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Chahar 1 armour moved from Honan to Eastern Sinkiang 1 fighter moved from Urals to Chahar 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea 1 infantry moved from Western Sinkiang to Kazakhstan 1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang 1 infantry moved from Honan to Inner Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 49 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 49 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 49 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Siberia Battle in Solomon Islands Battle in Northern Caucasus Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Northern Caucasus Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians, taking Solomon Islands from ANZAC, taking Northern Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Trigger Japanese Destroy Factories Siberia: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Japanese in Siberia Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Siberia Has Fallen to Japanese Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Siberia_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed_Japanese attached to Japanese 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 49 Sea Zone to Davao 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 7 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Davao 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,5 Japanese collect 51 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 51 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.50 Russians regular : 0.67 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 7
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 111 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 2 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 32 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone Combat - AmericansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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I’m not 100 % sure, but to me it looks a bit crazy to scramble to Gibraltar, so I’ll assume no scramble.
If you on the contrary wanted to scramble, I’ll reroll the whole battle in Gibraltar.
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Haven’t rolled any dice yet, but will do in a minute.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 111 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 2 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 32 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 55 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone Americans win, taking 55 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 93 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports Germans defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 93 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Solomon Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 4,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Solomon Islands Americans win, taking Solomon Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Gibraltar Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 1 harbour Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Gibraltar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Gibraltar Americans win, taking Gibraltar from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 11 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 32 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 11 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 55 PUs; end with 56 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1,00 Japanese regular : 0,67 Germans regular : -0,33 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Chinese Guerilla Honan: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Honan Trigger Chinese Guerilla Shansi: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Shansi Trigger Chinese Guerilla Tsinghai: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai Combat - Chinese Chinese creates battle in territory Tsinghai Chinese creates battle in territory Shansi Chinese creates battle in territory Honan Non Combat Move - Chinese 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 2 artilleries moved from Hopei to Anhwe 3 infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Hopei to Kiangsi 1 artillery moved from Hopei to Hunan 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Kiangsi 3 infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai 1 artillery moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 1 artillery moved from Hopei to Tsinghai 1 fighter moved from Hopei to Anhwe Place Units - Chinese 1 artillery placed in Shansi 2 infantry placed in Tsinghai 1 infantry placed in Shansi 1 infantry placed in Honan Chinese undo move 4. 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 7
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 7 Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 94 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece 2 destroyers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Syria to 94 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 39 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 40 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - British Battle in Sumatra Battle in Greece British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Italians defend with 1 artillery British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Greece, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Greece, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Greece British win, taking Sumatra from Japanese, taking Greece from Italians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery Battle in 94 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Italians defend with 1 battleship and 2 cruisers British roll dice for 1 submarine in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4,33 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0,67 British regular : -2,33 -
Casualties in z94? 3 hits (instead of 4,5).
Damage the bs is evident, but must be noted that if the carrier is damaged UK may retreat and the air will not be able to land.
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Of course, UK may always retreat, but say Axis choose to dmg bs, dmg ac and sink 1 cr, then no matter the outcome of the defense a sneaky move could be (not saying it will be) to retreat.
In that case the air will die and G and I has 1tr, 1 des, 1 cr, 1 dmg ac, 1 dmg bs in z94. That’s a TUV of 59, but with no repair possibility. The fleet has 4 hp and 10 p.
The fleet has a move of 2 and may reach z95. On a note I had intended to move 1 des from z99 to z95 now during CM, in case there was a scramble. However, a scramble to z99 looks like complete suicide, so assumed none would be made. Will move the des during NCM.
If you instead keep the ac functional, advisable is to instead sink the 2 cr. Since there’s only 1 sub in the battle it might not be cruical to keep the des, but it’s always extremely annoying if that first-strike comes true.
Anyway, lets look at that option anyway. Then G and I would instead have 1 tr, 1 des, 1 dmg bs, 1 ac, 1 fig, 1 tac in z94. That’s a TUV of 68 and with 6 hp and 14 p.
To me it looks like you want to keep the ac undamaged, but it’s your call. I won’t make any assumption since it’s not evident and we don’t know the result of the defense.
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damn… you are not a very good dice roller. When you took Egypt I thought maybe you had some sort of arrangement with the dice server, but as the game has progressed, I see that that may not be the case.
So, this is an interesting conundrum. Knowing that you are a darn Swede, I know that you are as sneaky as they come. Its like in your DNA. So what to do what to do… if I had only kept my sub back… -
@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
damn… you are not a very good dice roller. When you took Egypt I thought maybe you had some sort of arrangement with the dice server, but as the game has progressed, I see that that may not be the case.
So, this is an interesting conundrum. Knowing that you are a darn Swede, I know that you are as sneaky as they come. Its like in your DNA. So what to do what to do… if I had only kept my sub back…Actually, the russian efforts in the early rounds showed some serious deficit with the dice.
The situation is pretty interesting. Gave as much advice as possible above, but not certain there is an objectively best choice. It’s a lot about chance, of course.
Yes, the sub would’ve helped a bit in the defense there.
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German High Command has made a decision: damage BB and take a CR and the DD
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@max334 said in L21 #1 max334 (X+5) vs trulpen (A) P2V:
German High Command has made a decision: damage BB and take a CR and the DD
Jawohl, mein Führer! Wir sollen dass machen!
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