Is there a list or table in which all different plastic playing pieces for all the Axis and Allies games are listed?
So that we can see for example:
A&A Pacific_2 and A&A Europe_2 have the same American units.
Or:
Russian infantry units in game X have the same plastic playing piece as in game Y but in a different color.
OK, I cannot really decribe in a formal way what I mean but probably you get what I mean. If not: please ask.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Yes, I do know that a few games came in a different variety. For example: lighter and darker UK units. Ideally these would be listed too.
PS-2: If possible please also include the three ‘theater games’ (D-Day, Battle of the Bulge and Guadalcanal.
PS-3: If this is posted in the wrong section: sorry. Please move to the correct location then.
@thrasher1 I will take a stab at answering your question. I think the best way to answer this is in pieces. Fortunately for you, you aren’t the first to wonder what exactly is out there when it comes to A&A plastic.
A brief survey of important resources on A&A.org:
A&A Unit Identification Charts
(telling destroyers from cruisers, by CWO Marc)
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/21626/a-a-unit-identification-charts
Evolution of Axis & Allies pieces – Take 2
(what changed and when, piece-wise, buy knp7765)
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/14355/evolution-of-axis-allies-pieces-take-2
List of Sculpts
(this list, prepared by resident rules master Krieghund, give the history of the sculpts)
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/33671/list-of-sculpts
An example, taken from near the top:
Soviet Fighter: P-40 (US) in AA41; MiG 3 in AAE40; Yak 3 elsewhere
As a reply to this will be some charts I cooked up years ago to be my own reference as to who-what-where as it pertains to A&A pieces.
I hope that the combination of all of these source will help you answer your questions. And if it takes more than one source to fully answer your question, I would hope you would then post that question-answer pair yourself. Let’s spread the knowledge.
-Midnight_Reaper
From my list of pieces from A&A 1941. “Fighting Men” is just a reference that this is an infantry sculpt, good luck finding the model for that.
Unit Types Axis Allied
Infantry fighting men fighting men
Tank Ger Tiger I USSR IS-2 Stalin
Axis Allied
Fighter Ger Fw-190 USA P-40 Warhawk
Bomber Ger He-111 UK Lancaster
Axis Allied
Carrier IJN Akagi USSR Kostromitinova
Battlecruiser IJN Kongo UK Hood
Destroyer IJN Akizuki USA Sumner Class
Submarine IJN Kaichu type (2d cl) UK U / Undine Class
Transport IJN Yamazuki Maru UK/Can Fort Class
Axis Allied
Could have beens
Axis Allied
Artillery IJA Type 96 howitzers USSR M1943 howitzer
Cruiser German Konigsberg UK Town class, Southampton subclass
As for the “Could have beens”, Kreighund posted years ago that there were plans to include artillery and cruisers in 1941. While those pieces were deleted before production, there were specific units identified for those pieces. Those would-be scuplts are reflected in the list above.
-Midnight_Reaper
From my list of pieces from A&A 1942, 2nd Edition. “Fighting Men” is just a reference that this is an infantry sculpt, good luck finding the model for that.
Some explanation for my notes below:
2nd Ed = 1942, Second Edition; Europe 1940, Second Edition; Pacific 1940, Second Edition
40/42 = 1942, both editions; 1940, all four editions
40 = not in 1942; 1940, all four editions
Unit Types Germany
Infantry fighting man
Arty-2nd Ed Ger 10.5cm LeFH 18
AAA-2nd Ed Ger 8.8cm Flak 41
Tank-40/42 Ger Panzer V Panther
Mech Inf-40 Ger Sd.Kfz-251
Germany
Fighter-40/42 Ger Bf-109
Bomber-40/42 Ger Ju-88
Tac Bmbr-40 Ger Ju-87
Germany
Carrier-40/42 Ger Graf Zeppelin
BB-40/42 Ger Bismarck
Cruiser-40/42 Ger Hipper
DD-40/42 Ger Type 1934a
SS-40/42 Ger U-Boat Type VII
Trans-1st Ed Ger Danzig Class*
Transport-42 Ger Hilfskruever*
*Possibly Dithmarshen Class
Germany
Unit Types Japan
Infantry fighting man
Arty-40/42 IJA Type 92 70mm How.
AAA-2nd Ed IJA Type 88 75mm
Tank-40/42 IJA Type 95 Ha-Go
Mech Inf-40 2nd IJA Type 1 Ho-Ha
Japan
Fighter-40/42 IJN A6M Zero
Bomber-40/42 IJN G4M Betty
Tac Bmbr-40 IJN D3A Val
Japan
Carrier-40/42 IJN Shinano
BB-40/42 IJN Yamato
Cruiser-40/42 IJN Takao
DD-40/42 IJN Fubuki
SS-40/42 IJN I-Class (1st class)
Trans-40/42 IJN Hakusan Maru
Japan
Unit Types United Kingdom
Infantry fighting man
Arty-2nd Ed UK Ord. QF 25 Pnder
AAA-2nd Ed UK QFAA 3.7 inch
Tank-40/42 UK Matilda II
Mech Inf-40 2nd UK Priest Kangaroo
United Kingdom
Fighter-40/42 UK Spitfire
Bomber-40/42 UK Halifax
Tac Bmbr-40 UK DH.98 Mosquito
United Kingdom
Carrier-40/42 UK Illustrious
BB-40/42 UK Royal Sovereign*
Cruiser-40/42 UK County Class / Kent
DD-2nd Ed UK S Class
SS-2nd Ed UK Truculent/T Class
Trans-40/42 USA Liberty Ship
*Revenge or Royal Sovereign Class
United Kingdom
Unit Types United States of America
Infantry fighting man
Arty-40/42 USA 105mm How.
AAA-2nd Ed USA M1 90mm
Tank-40/42 USA M4 Sherman
Mech Inf-40 USA M3/M5 Half-track
USA
Fighter-40/42 USA P-38 Lightning
Bomber-40/42 USA B-17
Tac Bmbr-40 USA SBD Dauntless
USA
Carrier-40/42 USA Wasp
BB-40/42 USA Iowa
Cruiser-40/42 USA Portland
DD-40/42 USA Fletcher
SS-40/42 USA Gato
Trans-40/42 USA Liberty Ship
United States of America
Unit Types Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Infantry fighting man
Arty-2nd Ed USSR 152mm How.
AAA-2nd Ed USSR M1939 85mm
Tank-40/42 USSR T-34
Mech Inf-40 USSR Zis-42
USSR
Fighter-40/42 USSR Yak-3
Bomber-40/42 USSR PE-8
Tac Bmbr-40 USSR Il-2 Sturmovik
USSR
BB-40/42 USSR Gangut
Cruiser-40/42 USSR Kirov
DD-40/42 USSR Gnevny
SS-2nd Ed USSR Srednyaya/S-Class
Trans-40-2nd USSR Baltic Timber*
*Possibly Volgoles type
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
-Midnight_Reaper
I have charts going further back, but they mostly repeat. I will post them if asked, but only if asked.
-Midnight_Reaper
Thank you very much for all these links.
Might it - in the future - be possible to add all this info as a ‘resource’ to this site? So instead of a ‘post’ it would be an article or page then…
The reason I was looking for all this info (again) is that I plan to order some stuff. And I really hope to be able to use some of the pieces with multiple games.
Having said that: color indeed is an issue.
As is mentioned in this post:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/14355/evolution-of-axis-allies-pieces-take-2
… some games came with mismoulds (like the American-German mashup with infantry in Axis and Allies Classic) and some games had different versions.
As for mis-molds, there are 3 major ones that I can think of. As 2 of the 3 are in some of the rarest A&A games, getting them all might be a challenge.
MB A&A:
US & Ger Infantry color swap (1 or 2 production runs, early in the series).
A&A Guadalcanal:
US & IJN Cruisers color swap (the whole run, replacements were available on request).
A&A Anniversary Edition (1st printing)
Some, but not all, Italian M14/41 tanks replaced with UK Matilda II tanks in Italian brown (happened randomly, I think it averaged 1 per set, in those games that had that problem).
And now you know.
-Midnight_Reaper
@midnight_reaper said in List of all different A&A playing pieces (types) for all A&A games?:
As for mis-molds, there are 3 major ones that I can think of. As 2 of the 3 are in some of the rarest A&A games, getting them all might be a challenge.
MB A&A:
US & Ger Infantry color swap (1 or 2 production runs, early in the series).
I hear this one quite often. I bought my own game in the early 1990s. I have seen both the correct one and the US-German swap one in The Netherlands (where I am from).
A&A Guadalcanal:
US & IJN Cruisers color swap (the whole run, replacements were available on request).
Yes. And yes, this is a rare game. Very glad I bought it immediatelly when it came out.
A&A Anniversary Edition (1st printing)
Some, but not all, Italian M14/41 tanks replaced with UK Matilda II tanks in Italian brown (happened randomly, I think it averaged 1 per set, in those games that had that problem).
I did not know about this one. Thanks for posting this info.
Regarding Axis and Allies Europe and Pacific 1940 First Edition:
There are reports about slightly different US sets. So that the Europe and Pacific pieces for the US are not exactly the same shade of green.
Do you know how often this occured?
Regarding A&A Europe / Pacific 1940 Second Edition:
Are the colors of the pieces the same? I only own the First Edition so I cannot compare.
As always: your help is really appreciated!
Thanks for moving this message/discussion to the right place.
I really did not know where to post it.
As many of us are looking for additional playing pieces (and this message is about playing pieces) I deceided to post it in the Marktplace subofrum.
But thanks again.
@thrasher1 said in List of all different A&A playing pieces (types) for all A&A games?:
Regarding Axis and Allies Europe and Pacific 1940 First Edition:
There are reports about slightly different US sets. So that the Europe and Pacific pieces for the US are not exactly the same shade of green.
Do you know how often this occured?Regarding A&A Europe / Pacific 1940 Second Edition:
Are the colors of the pieces the same? I only own the First Edition so I cannot compare.
As far as I can tell, the colors between Europe '40 and Pacific '40 are very similar. I’m not going to say exact, but I don’t remember seeing a difference the last time I looked.
And the same for 1940 1st Ed and 1940 2nd Ed - they may be a difference, but I don’t remember seeing one.
You have probably reached the limit of my knowledge. I do hope someone further versed in the intricacies of version differences in A&A pieces can come along to help you.
-Midnight_Reaper
@thrasher1 said in List of all different A&A playing pieces (types) for all A&A games?:
@midnight_reaper said in List of all different A&A playing pieces (types) for all A&A games?:
MB A&A:
US & Ger Infantry color swap (1 or 2 production runs, early in the series).I hear this one quite often. I bought my own game in the early 1990s. I have seen both the correct one and the US-German swap one in The Netherlands (where I am from).
A look at those US/German Infantries (and, two different color IJA infantries as well):
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/14355/evolution-of-axis-allies-pieces-take-2/24.
A&A Guadalcanal:
US & IJN Cruisers color swap (the whole run, replacements were available on request).Yes. And yes, this is a rare game. Very glad I bought it immediatelly when it came out.
A look at the Guadalcanal IJN USN cruiser color swap:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/14355/evolution-of-axis-allies-pieces-take-2/30.
A&A Anniversary Edition (1st printing)
Some, but not all, Italian M14/41 tanks replaced with UK Matilda II tanks in Italian brown (happened randomly, I think it averaged 1 per set, in those games that had that problem).I did not know about this one. Thanks for posting this info.
A look at Anniversary Edition’s Brown Matilda IIs:
https://boardgamegeek.com/image/490594/axis-allies-anniversary-edition.
-Midnight_Reaper
One last reply for now.
First, let me hit you up with some pictures of how colors of units for different countries varied in the early days of Hasbro/WotC/AH A&A.
Tanks of the United Kingdom, from A&A Europe/Pacific to A&A Anniversary. (Source: https://boardgamegeek.com/image/424344/) - See the source link for a listing of what piece is from which game.
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And finally, a couple shots of the rarest (non-mistake) pieces in A&A - RN County Class cruisers in Russian Red. These were only done for the first print run of A&A Anniversary. The next time Soviet cruisers were seen in an A&A game (A&A 1942, 1st Edition), they were replaced with Kirov-class cruiser.
First, a comparison shot of all of the cruisers from A&A Anniversary, 1st print. (Source: https://boardgamegeek.com/image/362555/)
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Next, a clearer picture of those rare Soviet County classes, aligned with the rest of the Soviet Navy in A&A Anniversary. (Source: https://boardgamegeek.com/image/399605/)
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I hope that helps somebody.
-Midnight_Reaper
