Hesitated to think I might still be in this game - you might get Australia it looks like. Still, let’s see.
PtV Art of War v 666 (axis +15) Game 2
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@artofwar1947 said in PtV Art of War v 666 (axis +15) Game 2:
Please use third and last US/UK-5 post. I was in a fog yesterday.
I have been in one for the past 12 months
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@artofwar1947 said in PtV Art of War v 666 (axis +15) Game 2:
@666
:)I noticed you have been playing Truplen a good deal, how is it going?
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As you might expect with the Axis + 12. As the Axis, he won the first game. The rematch favors the Axis. Japan has taken Australia and WUS but, as a results, is weak in the S. Pacific and just lost Malaya and Java to the UK. And China and Russia still pose a threat. However, the Allies lost both their Atlantic and Pacific fleets and have only a Med fleet left. Germany and Italy still hold Gibraltar and are focused on holding back the Russians on the Eastern front and the Brits in the Med.
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@artofwar1947 said in PtV Art of War v 666 (axis +15) Game 2:
As you might expect with the Axis + 12. As the Axis, he won the first game. The rematch favors the Axis. Japan has taken Australia and WUS but, as a results, is weak in the S. Pacific and just lost Malaya and Java to the UK. And China and Russia still pose a threat. However, the Allies lost both their Atlantic and Pacific fleets and have only a Med fleet left. Germany and Italy still hold Gibraltar and are focused on holding back the Russians on the Eastern front and the Brits in the Med.
I find that he is a bit unorthodox, some of his moves and buys surprise me, and despite my success against him he is strong. I think I am a bit too cookie cutter but I have a hard time breaking my playing style.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Romania 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Romania 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Austria to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bessarabia Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Territory Summary for Italians :
Western Germany : 1 infantry Romania : 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Austria : 1 infantry Western Ukraine : 1 flag Southern Belarus : 1 flag Eastern Poland : 1 flag Bessarabia : 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry Baltic States : 1 flag Northern Belarus : 1 flag Cyprus : 1 flag, 1 infantry Northern Italy : 1 factory_major Southern Italy : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 4 fighters, 1 harbour, 10 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Bulgaria : 1 artillery and 1 infantry Yugoslavia : 3 infantry Greece : 1 flag Crete : 1 flag, 1 infantry 95 Sea Zone : 1 battleship and 2 cruisersProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 47 / 63 Russians : 35 / 42 Japanese : 59 / 74 Americans : 54 / 74 Chinese : 9 / 11 British : 36 / 39 UK_Pacific : 7 / 10 Italians : 16 / 16 ANZAC : 9 / 9 French : 2 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 3 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 1 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary: French round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands Combat - ANZAC Battle in Solomon Islands Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 28 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Northeast Persia ANZAC take Northeast Persia from Neutral_Allies Place Units - ANZAC 3 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 64 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4 ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Egypt: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Combat Move - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Burma: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Eastern India: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine Germans take Ukraine from Russians Combat - Germans Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Ukraine: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Ukraine Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 12 infantry moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 2 aaGuns, 10 armour, 4 artilleries, 34 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 artillery placed in Western Germany 5 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 transport placed in 116 Sea Zone Germans undo move 2. Germans undo move 1. 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Territory Summary for Germans :
Western Germany : 1 airfield, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 6 fighters, 1 harbour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 4 tactical_bombers Holland Belgium : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Poland : 4 mech_infantrys Germany : 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Western Ukraine : 2 artilleries and 1 infantry Eastern Poland : 2 mech_infantrys Karelia : 1 flag Archangel : 1 flag Bessarabia : 1 flag Ukraine : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 11 armour, 4 artilleries, 35 infantry and 12 mech_infantrys Vyborg : 1 flag Vologda : 1 flag Leningrad : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 19 infantry Novgorod : 1 flag Southern Italy : 1 fighter Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry France : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 2 infantry Finland : 1 flag, 1 infantry Bulgaria : 1 flag Yugoslavia : 1 flag 116 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport 118 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 transportsProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 49 / 65 Russians : 33 / 42 Japanese : 59 / 74 Americans : 54 / 74 Chinese : 9 / 11 British : 36 / 39 UK_Pacific : 7 / 10 Italians : 16 / 16 ANZAC : 10 / 13 French : 2 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 3 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 3 armour, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov 2 aaGuns, 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 41 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Kursk to Rostov 3 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Russia to Tula 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 3 fighters moved from Russia to Rostov 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Russia 1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur Place Units - Russians 3 armour, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 3 armour, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov 2 aaGuns, 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 41 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Kursk to Rostov 3 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Russia to Tula 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 3 fighters moved from Russia to Rostov 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Russia 1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur Place Units - Russians 3 armour, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Tula: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ArtofWar1947, rule question…I’ve read that the number of aircraft that can scramble to an adjacent sz w/a surface warship or a land territory with a defending unit is equal to the number of undamaged CV’s. I thought I read somewhere or was told by someone that the max number of aircraft that can scramble is 3. Or maybe it was a dream I had?!? Which is it?
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At the time we started our first game, the rule was 1 plane for each CV.
The revised rule that was adopted during our first game is 1 plane for each CV up to MAX of 3 from a SZ.
For the sake of equity, I assumed we are playing the rematch with the same rule we played our first game. I would be happy to adopt the new rule if you wish.
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@artofwar1947 when you say adopted, you are saying that everyone is playing with the max of 3 rule now? If so I wish they revised the notes in triplea, and I wished they fixed the game so it wasn’t always asking for scramble orders when in fact many/most aren’t even allowed.
Let’s play by the new, correct, updated rule…my old brain can’t keep all this straight.
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I just noticed it does say a max of three now. that’s good
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Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 2.5.22294, time: 9:59:53 AM
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The new rule of a Max of 3 from a SZ may disadvantage the Japanese more than the US, because the latter is always playing catch-up to the Japanese in terms of the number of CVs, but sure.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 5 artilleries, 3 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 armour moved from Yunnan to Burma Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Australia Japanese take Northern Australia from ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia Japanese take South Australia from ANZAC 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 3 fighters moved from Queensland to Solomon Islands 3 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 57 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 57 Sea Zone to Western Australia 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan Japanese take Honan from Chinese Combat - Japanese Battle in Western Australia Battle in Solomon Islands Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Solomon Islands Japanese win, taking Western Australia from ANZAC, taking Solomon Islands from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 fighters moved from Solomon Islands to Queensland 3 fighters moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 marine, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Kyushu to 20 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter moved from Japan to Korea 2 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien 3 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 2 artilleries moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 aaGun moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 3 transports moved from 46 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Davao 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Davao 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 fighter moved from Japan to Davao 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in Queensland Japanese undo move 1. 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Queensland Japanese undo move 1. 3 artilleries placed in Queensland 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu Japanese undo move 2. 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangtung 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 fighters and 4 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0.83 ANZAC regular : 0.67Territory Summary for Japanese :
Kyushu : 1 infantry Southern Manchuria : 1 flag Kiangsu : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 6 infantry Northern Manchuria : 1 flag Korea : 1 fighter and 4 infantry Shantung : 1 flag Caroline Islands : 1 airfield and 1 harbour Jehol : 1 flag, 2 infantry Japan : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 6 infantry Kwangsi : 1 flag, 3 infantry Fukien : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 3 infantry Davao : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers Manilla : 1 flag Guam : 1 flag, 1 airfield Anhwe : 1 flag, 1 infantry Kweichow : 1 flag, 1 infantry Shansi : 1 flag, 1 infantry Honan : 1 flag, 1 infantry Kiangsi : 1 flag, 1 infantry Hunan : 1 flag, 1 infantry Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Yunnan : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Szechwan : 1 flag, 1 infantry Shan State : 1 flag Malaya : 1 flag, 1 harbour Borneo : 1 flag Burma : 1 flag Solomon Islands : 1 flag, 1 artillery Western Australia : 1 flag, 1 marine South Australia : 1 flag, 1 infantry New Guinea : 1 flag New Britain : 1 flag Northern Australia : 1 flag, 1 infantry Queensland : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 3 marines French Indo China : 1 flag Sumatra : 1 flag 64 Sea Zone : 1 submarine Java : 1 flag 7 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer 5 Sea Zone : 1 submarine 57 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag Celebes : 1 flag 6 Sea Zone : 2 transports 36 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 5 transports 20 Sea Zone : 1 transport 55 Sea Zone : 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 5 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transportProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 49 / 65 Russians : 33 / 40 Japanese : 64 / 77 Americans : 54 / 74 Chinese : 8 / 11 British : 36 / 39 UK_Pacific : 6 / 10 Italians : 16 / 16 ANZAC : 7 / 13 French : 2 / 0 Dutch : 0 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 3 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0 Neutral_True : 20 / 0 -
@artofwar1947 said in PtV Art of War v 666 (axis +15) Game 2:
The new rule of a Max of 3 from a SZ may disadvantage the Japanese more than the US, because the latter is always playing catch-up to the Japanese in terms of the number of CVs, but sure.
if that is my downfall this game versus one of my massive blunders, I will be happily surprised!
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 6
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.0.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 50 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 4 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 50 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea ZoneCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Scramble fighters to defend against US tran + 5 fighters attacking from SZ 50?
Scramble fighters to defend Solomon Islands?
This attempt on the Solomon Islands would not have been chancy, if not impractical, under the old rules, where the Japanese could defended either zone with 5 fighters.
You should not be so hard on yourself. I made the mother of all blunders against Trulpen. The Japanese took the seventh VC and just needed to hold for 1 turn. The Allies had no chance of taking a VC if defended effectively. Blocked 3 sea zones around Hawaii, but overlooked a marine in Central America, which had unblocked access to Hawaii. The blunder turned certain victory into certain defeat. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Makes one wonder if one should find a less stressful past time.
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