@VictoryFirst Germany is up
1914 #2 Witt & Elrood (CP) vs Rommel & PP (Ent)
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Started doing B, but cannot remember how subs work in this variant!
- Do they block? They seem to be doin so.
- Do they only get the option to submerge after a round of dice thrown at them?
- Can planes hit a sub with no destroyer present?
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@private-panic They work exactly like in G40 Global
- no, they do not block
- they can submerge before battle
- no, planes cannot hit them without a DD present
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@private-panic There’s little documentation. The notes in the Triplea game map don’t say and the rule book is for the board game. Assume same as Global WWII. Games I’ve played ask at beginning of combat if I want to submerge subs. Don’t recall being asked afterwards. Haven’t had fighter and sub interaction.
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Thanks @Elrood & @FMErwinRommel
I do seem to be getting blocked by the subs … let me play whatever the game will or won’t allow …
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I had to start again. This time I got convoys! I will keep restarting until I miss the tech.
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@private-panic In the edit mode, there is an option to remove tech. So you don’t have to restart over and over
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- Edit remove the subs
- make the combat move
- Edit add subs back in
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TripleA Turn Summary: Britain round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1
Game History
Round: 1 Research Technology - Britain Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Turkey from Palestine: 2 cavalrys EDIT: Adding units owned by Turkey to Sinai: 2 cavalrys EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Turkey from Palestine: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Turkey to Syria: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Turkey from Palestine: 1 cavalry EDIT: Adding units owned by Turkey to Damascus: 1 cavalry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Britain spend 5 on tech rolls Britain rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits Combat Move - Britain 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 17 Norwegian Sea to Sea Zone 16 North Sea 1 fighter moved from England to Sea Zone 16 North Sea 1 colonial moved from Nigeria to Kamerun 1 infantry moved from Cape Colony to Pretoria 1 cavalry moved from Orange River to Pretoria 1 cavalry moved from Bechuanaland to German Southwest Africa Britain take German Southwest Africa from Germany 1 cavalry moved from German Southwest Africa to Pretoria 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea to Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf 1 battlecruiser moved from Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea to Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf 1 field_gun moved from Goa to Sea Zone 79 Arabian Sea 1 infantry moved from Goa to Sea Zone 79 Arabian Sea 1 cruiser, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 79 Arabian Sea to Sea Zone 74 Gulf of Aden 1 field_gun moved from Sea Zone 74 Gulf of Aden to Italian Somaliland 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 74 Gulf of Aden to Italian Somaliland 2 infantry moved from Shanghai 3 to Shanghai 2 Purchase Units - Britain Britain buy 3 destroyers, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 techTokens; Combat - Britain Battle in Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf Britain attack with 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser Turkey defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport Britain roll dice for 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser in Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Turkey roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Turkey, 1 transport owned by the Turkey and 1 cruiser owned by the Britain lost in Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf Britain win with 1 battlecruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Britain: 1 cruiser Casualties for Turkey: 1 cruiser and 1 transport Battle in Sea Zone 16 North Sea Britain attack with 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Germany defend with 2 battlecruisers, 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Britain roll dice for 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in Sea Zone 16 North Sea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germany Germany roll dice for 2 battlecruisers, 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Sea Zone 16 North Sea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Britain 1 fighter owned by the Britain, 1 battlecruiser owned by the Germany, 1 cruiser owned by the Germany and 1 cruiser owned by the Britain lost in Sea Zone 16 North Sea Britain roll dice for 1 battlecruiser and 1 battleship in Sea Zone 16 North Sea, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 battlecruiser and 1 battleship in Sea Zone 16 North Sea, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Britain, 1 battleship owned by the Germany, 1 battlecruiser owned by the Germany and 1 battlecruiser owned by the Britain lost in Sea Zone 16 North Sea Germany win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Britain: 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Casualties for Germany: 2 battlecruisers, 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in Kamerun Britain attack with 1 colonial Germany defend with 1 infantry Britain roll dice for 1 colonial in Kamerun, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 infantry in Kamerun, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany lost in Kamerun Britain win, taking Kamerun from Germany with 1 colonial remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germany: 1 infantry Battle in Italian Somaliland Britain attack with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Germany defend with 1 cavalry Britain roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Italian Somaliland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 cavalry in Italian Somaliland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Britain and 1 cavalry owned by the Germany lost in Italian Somaliland Britain win, taking Italian Somaliland from Germany with 1 field_gun remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Britain: 1 infantry Casualties for Germany: 1 cavalry Battle in Pretoria Britain attack with 2 cavalrys and 1 infantry Germany defend with 1 infantry Britain roll dice for 2 cavalrys and 1 infantry in Pretoria, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 infantry in Pretoria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany lost in Pretoria Britain win, taking Pretoria from Germany with 2 cavalrys and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germany: 1 infantry Battle in Shanghai 2 Britain attack with 2 infantry Germany defend with 1 infantry Britain roll dice for 2 infantry in Shanghai 2, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 infantry in Shanghai 2, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany lost in Shanghai 2 Britain win, taking Shanghai 2 from Germany with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germany: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Britain 1 field_gun moved from Singapore to Sea Zone 126 Java Sea 1 infantry moved from Singapore to Sea Zone 126 Java Sea 1 cruiser, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 126 Java Sea to Sea Zone 124 Celebes Sea 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 124 Celebes Sea to Sarawak 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 129 South China Sea to Sea Zone 124 Celebes Sea 1 colonial moved from Victoria to New South Wales 1 cavalry moved from Queensland to Sydney-Canberra 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 115 Tasman Sea to Sea Zone 116 Great Australian Bight 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 84 Andaman Sea to Sea Zone 124 Celebes Sea 1 battlecruiser moved from Sea Zone 84 Andaman Sea to Sea Zone 124 Celebes Sea 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 104 Southern Ocean to Sea Zone 106 Pacific Ocean 1 cavalry moved from Northern Territory to New South Wales 1 colonial moved from Punjab to Sindh 2 infantry moved from Bombay to Deccan 1 infantry moved from Calcutta to Orissa 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 75 Red Sea to Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 75 Red Sea to Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea 1 infantry moved from Port Sudan to Western Sudan 1 infantry moved from Upper Egypt to Cairo-Suez 1 infantry moved from Gold Coast to Upper Volta 1 infantry moved from Southern Rhodesia to Northern Rhodesia 1 infantry moved from Cape Town to Cape Colony 1 field_gun moved from Cape Town to Cape Colony 1 colonial moved from Newfoundland to Quebec 1 field_gun moved from Quebec to Nova Scotia 1 field_gun moved from Ottawa-Montreal to Quebec 1 colonial moved from Ontario to Quebec 1 colonial moved from Manitoba to Ontario 1 colonial moved from Saskatchewan to Manitoba 1 colonial moved from Alberta to Northwest Territories 1 colonial moved from British Columbia to Northwest Territories 1 fighter moved from Ireland to Normandy 1 infantry moved from Northern Ireland to Sea Zone 24 Irish Sea 1 field_gun moved from Wales to Sea Zone 24 Irish Sea 2 infantry moved from Wales to England 3 infantry moved from Scotland to England 4 infantry moved from England to London 1 field_gun moved from Gibraltar to Sea Zone 54 Alboran Sea 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Sea Zone 54 Alboran Sea 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 54 Alboran Sea to Sea Zone 58 Tyrrhenian Sea 1 battlecruiser, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 54 Alboran Sea to Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Tuscany 1 field_gun moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Tuscany 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 24 Irish Sea to Sea Zone 22 Mid Atlantic 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 22 Mid Atlantic to St. John's Island 2 transports moved from Sea Zone 21 Gulf of St. Lawrence to Sea Zone 22 Mid Atlantic 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 21 Gulf of St. Lawrence to Sea Zone 22 Mid Atlantic Place Units - Britain 1 infantry and 3 trenchs placed in Cairo-Suez 1 submarine placed in Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean 2 destroyers placed in Sea Zone 22 Mid Atlantic 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in Sea Zone 126 Java Sea 1 submarine placed in Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea Britain undo move 5. Britain undo move 1. 3 trenchs placed in Cairo-Suez 1 submarine placed in Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean 1 infantry placed in Goa Turn Complete - Britain Britain collect 81 PUs; end with 81 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germany regular : 1.00 Britain rolls : 0.00 Turkey regular : 0.50 Britain regular : 5.50
Territory Summary for Britain :
German Southwest Africa : 1 flag Kamerun : 1 flag, 1 colonial Shanghai 2 : 1 flag, 2 infantry Normandy : 1 fighter Upper Volta : 1 infantry Italian Somaliland : 1 field_gun Tuscany : 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Bombay : 1 Factory Cairo-Suez : 1 Factory, 1 cavalry, 1 field_gun, 3 infantry and 3 trenchs Calcutta : 1 Factory Cape Colony : 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Cape Town : 1 Factory Congo : 1 infantry Deccan : 2 infantry England : 1 cavalry and 5 infantry Goa : 1 Factory and 1 infantry Hong Kong : 1 infantry Jamaica : 1 infantry London : 1 Factory, 1 field_gun and 5 infantry Malaya : 1 cavalry Manitoba : 1 colonial New South Wales : 1 cavalry and 1 colonial New Zealand : 1 colonial Northern Rhodesia : 2 infantry Northwest Territories : 2 colonials Nova Scotia : 1 Factory, 1 colonial and 1 field_gun Ontario : 1 colonial Orissa : 1 infantry Ottawa-Montreal : 1 Factory Papua : 1 infantry Pretoria : 2 cavalrys and 1 infantry Quebec : 2 colonials and 1 field_gun Sarawak : 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Sindh : 1 colonial Singapore : 1 Factory St. John's Island : 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry Sydney-Canberra : 1 Factory, 1 cavalry, 2 colonials and 1 field_gun Uganda : 1 infantry Western Sudan : 1 infantry Sea Zone 22 Mid Atlantic : 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 3 transports Sea Zone 35 Mid Atlantic : 1 cruiser Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea : 1 battlecruiser and 1 transport Sea Zone 58 Tyrrhenian Sea : 1 cruiser Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete : 1 cruiser Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean : 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 submarines Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf : 1 battlecruiser Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea : 1 transport Sea Zone 74 Gulf of Aden : 1 cruiser and 1 transport Sea Zone 106 Pacific Ocean : 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser Sea Zone 116 Great Australian Bight : 1 cruiser and 1 transport Sea Zone 124 Celebes Sea : 1 battlecruiser, 3 cruisers and 1 transport Sea Zone 126 Java Sea : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
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From past experience removing the tech allows you to discover it again but did not remove the tech unit from the purchase list. So it might not negate the change in combat values either. Anyway - all done now.
It wouldn’t let me non com through the subs in sz25 so they must block.
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@private-panic Subs and TTs NEVER ever block
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PP, Did you try NCM through sz with the Germ sub? If you can’t hit the sub without a DD, makes no sense that you can’t move thru.
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@elrood said in 1914 #2 Witt & Elrood (CP) vs Rommel & PP (Ent):
- Edit remove the subs
- make the combat move
- Edit add subs back in
edit: 2. make combat move or NCM
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Is clearly due to our bug and not normal behavior we experience here
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@elrood That’s it. Sub has no first strike because its being treated as a surface ship in the corrupted file, and that’s why it can block.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russia round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1
Game History
Round: 1 Combat Move - Russia 2 cavalrys moved from Vladimir to Moscow 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry moved from Tver to Moscow 2 conscripts, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Ryazan to Moscow 1 conscript moved from Smolensk to Moscow Purchase Units - Russia Russia buy 9 conscripts, 2 heavy_guns and 4 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Russia Battle in Moscow Russia attack with 2 cavalrys, 3 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry Communists defend with 1 Factory, 5 conscripts and 1 trench Russia roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 3 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 1.83 expected hits Communists roll dice for 5 conscripts and 1 trench in Moscow, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 trench owned by the Communists and 3 conscripts owned by the Communists lost in Moscow Russia roll dice for 2 cavalrys, 3 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 3/9 hits, 1.83 expected hits Communists roll dice for 2 conscripts in Moscow, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 2 conscripts owned by the Communists lost in Moscow Russia win, taking Moscow from Communists with 2 cavalrys, 3 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13 Casualties for Communists: 5 conscripts and 1 trench Non Combat Move - Russia 2 cavalrys, 2 conscripts and 3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 1 field_gun moved from Warsaw to Eastern Poland 2 conscripts and 1 field_gun moved from Lithuania to Belarus 1 conscript moved from Latvia to Belarus 2 conscripts moved from Pskov to Latvia 1 conscript moved from Minsk to Belarus 2 conscripts moved from Moldavia to Odessa 1 conscript moved from Bessarabia to Odessa 2 conscripts and 1 field_gun moved from Kiev to Odessa 2 conscripts and 1 infantry moved from Don to Caucasus 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 2 conscripts moved from Turkmenistan to Sea Zone 65 Caspian Sea 2 conscripts moved from Sea Zone 65 Caspian Sea to Caucasus 2 conscripts moved from Crimea to Odessa 2 conscripts moved from Belarus to Odessa 4 infantry moved from St. Petersburg to Pskov 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Karelia to St. Petersburg 1 conscript moved from Novgorod to Pskov 1 conscript moved from Archangelsk to Novgorod 1 conscript and 1 field_gun moved from Nizhni-Novgorod to Kazan 2 conscripts moved from Naryan-Mar to Western Siberian Lowlands 2 conscripts moved from Primorsky to Khabarovsk 1 conscript and 1 field_gun moved from Vladivostok to Primorsky 1 conscript moved from Irkutsk to Buryatia 1 conscript and 1 field_gun moved from Irkutsk to Bratsk 1 conscript moved from Perm to Krasnoyarsk 1 conscript moved from Novosibirsk to Bratsk 1 conscript moved from Omsk to Novosibirsk 2 cavalrys moved from Kazan to Novosibirsk 1 cavalry moved from Kazakhstan to Bratsk 1 conscript and 1 field_gun moved from Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan 1 cavalry moved from Buryatia to Chita 1 conscript moved from Vologda to Kazan 2 conscripts moved from Vologda to Perm 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 64 Sea of Azov to Sea Zone 67 Black Sea 1 conscript moved from Smolensk to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Dnieper to Belarus 2 conscripts moved from Koryak to Magadan 1 conscript and 1 field_gun moved from Kamchatka to Koryak 1 cavalry moved from Azerbaijan to Caucasus Place Units - Russia 2 conscripts and 1 heavy_gun placed in Kiev 3 conscripts placed in Minsk 1 trench placed in Odessa 2 conscripts placed in Omsk 2 conscripts and 1 heavy_gun placed in Irkutsk 1 trench placed in Aldan 1 trench placed in Tiksi 1 trench placed in Sakhe Turn Complete - Russia Russia collect 97 PUs; end with 97 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Communists regular : -1.17 Russia regular : 4.33
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Took longer than expected, German and Austrian troops pressuring Russia on Eastern front already and Turkey on southern front. And so little cash to start.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Communists round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1
Game History
Round: 1 Research Technology - Communists Communists spend 10 on tech rolls Communists roll 2,4 and gets 0 hits Combat Move - Communists 1 cavalry moved from Yakutsk to Sakhe 1 cavalry moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 cavalry moved from Yakutsk to Aldan Purchase Units - Communists Communists buy 6 field_guns and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 2 techTokens; Combat - Communists Battle in Aldan Communists attack with 1 cavalry Russia defend with 1 trench 1 trench owned by the Russia lost in Aldan Communists win, taking Aldan from Russia with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russia: 1 trench Battle in Sakhe Communists attack with 1 cavalry Russia defend with 1 trench 1 trench owned by the Russia lost in Sakhe Communists win, taking Sakhe from Russia with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russia: 1 trench Battle in Tiksi Communists attack with 1 cavalry Russia defend with 1 trench 1 trench owned by the Russia lost in Tiksi Communists win, taking Tiksi from Russia with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russia: 1 trench Non Combat Move - Communists 1 conscript moved from Yakutsk to Sakhe 1 conscript moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 field_gun moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 field_gun moved from Yakutsk to Aldan 2 cavalrys and 6 conscripts moved from Yakutsk to Aldan 1 cavalry moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 conscript moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 1 conscript moved from Yakutsk to Sakhe Place Units - Communists 6 field_guns and 2 infantry placed in Yakutsk Turn Complete - Communists Communists collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Territory Summary for Communists :
Aldan : 1 flag, 3 cavalrys, 6 conscripts and 1 field_gun Sakhe : 1 flag, 1 cavalry and 2 conscripts Tiksi : 1 flag, 2 cavalrys, 2 conscripts and 1 field_gun Yakutsk : 1 Factory, 6 field_guns and 2 infantry
Production/PUs Summary :
Germany : 114 / 131 France : 74 / 74 Serbia : 13 / 0 Austria : 76 / 79 Italy : 28 / 27 Arabia : 6 / 9 Turkey : 65 / 84 Britain : 81 / 81 Russia : 94 / 97 Communists : 23 / 23 USA : 66 / 25
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TripleA Turn Summary: USA round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1
Game History
Round: 1 Research Technology - USA USA spend 5 on tech rolls USA rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits Purchase Units - USA USA buy 3 gass and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 1 techTokens; Non Combat Move - USA 1 infantry moved from Oregon to New Mexico 1 infantry moved from Montana to New Mexico 1 infantry moved from New Orleans to Louisiana 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Charleston to Atlanta 1 infantry moved from New York to Hudson-Delaware 1 infantry moved from New England to Hudson-Delaware 1 infantry moved from San Francisco to California Place Units - USA 3 gass placed in Charleston 1 transport placed in Sea Zone 30 Mid Atlantic Turn Complete - USA USA collect 66 PUs; end with 67 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
USA rolls : 0.00
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I tried in both combat and non combat but the subs blocked both times.
Oh well …
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Perhaps we really should start again? :anguished:
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@private-panic after our great start ?