1914 #2 Witt & Elrood (CP) vs Rommel & PP (Ent)

[FMErwinRommel]

@elrood First strike feature failed to activate in your sea battle. I tested an Italian attack offline, edited to include a sub and land battle with gas, and neither performed first strike in battle. Anybody have a suggestion how to solve this?

[FMErwinRommel]

PP and Elrood, please start a new offline game of 1914 on your computers and have Germ fleet sz12 attack sz16 and Rhine troops and gas in Sax attack Belg; and see if you get first strike battle dice. Have you noticed this problem in your other 1914 games? When I started the first game as Germ and Witt started the second game as Germ, it worked correctly. PP what is your engine # and game map number?

[Elrood]

@fmerwinrommel tried it and works fine
Witt and I also have a 1on1 going of the game and never had such issues.

this first strike issues started in the other game after PP made his first move. So I am a little bit suspecting his engine is corrupting the savegames somehow.

[FMErwinRommel]

PP, please test a new offline game on your computer with a G1 sea battle with a sub; and a land battle with the Ger gas. If no first strike, you may have to delete and re-download Triplea.

[Private-Panic]

Opened triple A and got this:

Your current version: 2.0.20234 Latest version available for download: 2.5.22294

[Private-Panic]

The sub missed so cannot tell if a hit would have been first strike. But the Gas did not roll.

[Elrood]

@private-panic Wow, This is ancient! Wonder that you were even able to play with us! you MUST update your tripleA!

check here: https://triplea-game.org/download/ and choose the right version for your Computer. Ask if you are not certain.

[Private-Panic]

@elrood Was updating - now version 2.5.22294

[Private-Panic]

Edited in a couple of first strike battles and all now seems to be fine:

2021-4-13-Domination-1914-No-Man’s-Land.tsvg

Sorry to have caused the problem :anguished:

What do we do now?

[Elrood]

@private-panic Could you check if the bug still exists?

1. start a new game and let all available Subs attack somewhere and also use german Gas to check if first strike works now generally.

if that passes OK, then:

2. load the last savegame we have here (austrian go), edit / add a few Italian Subs in and Gas as well and let those attack some targets, to check if our instance of the game still corrupted (which i guess it is), but we can check it to be sure.

[Elrood]

@elrood And use Marti in the 2nd Test. is best to test as close to the “real world” as possible

[FMErwinRommel]

Once the rest of us used the corrupted file, it stayed corrupted for us also. Editing all changes from a good G1 to an updated A1 is impractical. Allies and Axis will start building DD’s, making first sub strike rare. Most sea battles will be small, so we can manually adjust. Most land battles won’t use gas. My suggestion is: when attacking player uses gas, post to forum after tech roll/combat moves. If possible, click re-post after purchases. Do combat for gas battle first, and only first round. Save game manually (upper left corner). Close the game. Reload saved game for online, edit remove all gas and # of defenders based on gas hits. End edit and continue combat normally for that battle and all others. May have to manually calculate adjustment for subs and bombardment, but not gas.

[Private-Panic]

I already did @Elrood 's first test - see the file I saved above. It seems from @FMErwinRommel 's post that we will have to live with it for this game. Sorry guys!

[Elrood]

@private-panic Yes, likely Rommel is right, but I prefer have Adam test it first.

And if it is still not working properly i would vote for a new game. I do not care for the hassle of constant editing.

[FMErwinRommel]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italy round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 1

    Research Technology - Italy
        Italy spend 5 on tech rolls
            Italy rolls : 1/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits
        Italy removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
        Italy discover bunkers

    Combat Move - Italy
        1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry moved from Piedmont to Milan
        2 infantry moved from Tuscany to Milan

    Purchase Units - Italy
        Italy buy 4 heavy_guns, 2 infantry and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat - Italy
        Battle in Milan
            Italy attack with 1 heavy_gun and 5 infantry
            Austria defend with 1 field_gun and 3 infantry
                Italy roll dice for 1 heavy_gun and 5 infantry in Milan, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 3 infantry in Milan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Italy and 2 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Milan
                Italy roll dice for 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry in Milan, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Milan
                Italy roll dice for 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry in Milan, round 4 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 heavy_gun and 3 infantry in Milan, round 5 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italy and 1 field_gun owned by the Austria lost in Milan
            Italy win, taking Milan from Austria with 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italy: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Austria: 1 field_gun and 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italy
        1 cavalry moved from Tripolitania to Tunisia
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Tripoli to Tripolitania
        1 transport moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Sea Zone 58 Tyrrhenian Sea
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sicily to Sea Zone 58 Tyrrhenian Sea
        1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 58 Tyrrhenian Sea to Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Tuscany
        1 field_gun and 2 infantry moved from Latium to Tuscany
        1 field_gun and 2 infantry moved from Rome to Latium
        1 cavalry moved from Apulia to Tuscany
        2 infantry moved from Apulia to Latium
        2 infantry moved from Naples to Rome
        1 heavy_gun moved from Naples to Rome

    Place Units - Italy
        3 trenchs placed in Tuscany
        3 heavy_guns placed in Piedmont
        1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry placed in Rome

    Activate Technology - Italy
        Italy activating bunkers

    Turn Complete - Italy
        Italy collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italy regular : -0.33
Austria regular : 0.33
Italy rolls : 1.00

Savegame

[FMErwinRommel]

Excellent turn for Italy. Got bunker tech on 1 die roll, which improves defense of Tuscany. And retook Milan.

[FMErwinRommel]

TripleA Turn Summary: Arabia round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4.1

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Arabia
        Arabia buy 4 Bedouins and 2 trenchs; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Non Combat Move - Arabia
        2 Bedouins moved from Yemen to Hejaz
        2 Bedouins moved from Arabia to Hejaz
        4 Bedouins moved from Mecca to Hejaz

    Place Units - Arabia
        4 Bedouins and 2 trenchs placed in Mecca

    Turn Complete - Arabia
        Arabia collect 8 PUs; end with 9 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[Elrood]

@fmerwinrommel we just started the game. Can we not simply redo?

[FMErwinRommel]

Arabs waiting for Lawrence to arrive and inspire them, with British gold, to attack the Turks.

[Elrood]

@fmerwinrommel nvm, lets resume!