Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France 2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 114 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in France Germans attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27 Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 6 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 2 infantry moved from Denmark to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium Place Units - Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 114 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 114 Sea Zone: 1 battleship EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 115 Sea Zone: 1 battleship EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: battleship = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUsL20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3
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@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Not sure what is possible, but with landing in Tobruk and an ab in Greece G can just get in a shit-load of air on Cairo. So I just max it out. So bad.
yup, losing Egypt would not be a good thing for sure.
so you want to keep the pac position as is then?
Ah, the fleet? Didn’t even look at it. Will do.
I mean, haven’t you lost enough fleets by now ??
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@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Not sure what is possible, but with landing in Tobruk and an ab in Greece G can just get in a shit-load of air on Cairo. So I just max it out. So bad.
yup, losing Egypt would not be a good thing for sure.
so you want to keep the pac position as is then?
Ah, the fleet? Didn’t even look at it. Will do.
I mean, haven’t you lost enough fleets by now ??
More than enough.
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@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Not sure what is possible, but with landing in Tobruk and an ab in Greece G can just get in a shit-load of air on Cairo. So I just max it out. So bad.
yup, losing Egypt would not be a good thing for sure.
so you want to keep the pac position as is then?
Ah, the fleet? Didn’t even look at it. Will do.
I mean, haven’t you lost enough fleets by now ??
More than enough.
well cool, let me know when it’s good to go. no rush.
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Did a calculation and it does not look very good for that fleet. I’ll move it to z54 during Franz. Easier with the move-edit. Thanks for the heads-up, although this game is probably over by now anyway.
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@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Did a calculation and it does not look very good for that fleet. I’ll move it to z54 during Franz. Easier with the move-edit. Thanks for the heads-up, although this game is probably over by now anyway.
ok no prob. I’ll proceed with italy then.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 21
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0
Game History
Round: 21 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus Italians take Caucasus from Russians 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Cyprus 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Cyprus 1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Cyprus 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 marine moved from Greece to Turkey Combat - Italians Battle in Turkey Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 marine Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 marine in Turkey, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkey, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Turkey Italians win, taking Turkey from Americans with 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Cyprus Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 marine Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 marine in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 marine owned by the British lost in Cyprus Italians win, taking Cyprus from British with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for British: 1 marine Non Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from Cyprus to Greece 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Greece 2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Turkey 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Turkey 2 fighters moved from Afghanistan to Greece 1 bomber moved from Cyprus to Greece 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Greece 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 3 armour moved from Afghanistan to Eastern Persia 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 1 airfield placed in Greece 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy Italians undo move 2. 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5 Italians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Italians regular : -1.00 British regular : -0.33 -
@trulpen fun game!
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@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen fun game!
Not really. Atleast not for me after losing all that fleet multiple times.
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Hmm, think you did an forbidden move there. The ac has no attack-value, so can’t defend the tr from the sub, right?
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@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Hmm, think you did an forbidden move there. The ac has no attack-value, so can’t defend the tr from the sub, right?
No I looked it up. All that’s needed to ignore a sub is a warship. And an cv is a warship.
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@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Hmm, think you did an forbidden move there. The ac has no attack-value, so can’t defend the tr from the sub, right?
No I looked it up. All that’s needed to ignore a sub is a warship. And an cv is a warship.
I believe you’re mistaken.
“The sea zone may be either friendly or hostile, but if it is hostile it must be made friendly through sea combat before the amphibious assault can commence.”
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But might be that there’s a special case with subs.
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Think I know what the problem is.
“a transport is not allowed to offload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing 1 or more ignored enemy submarines unless at least 1 warship belonging to the attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase”
The thing is that you attack the sea zone with 1 ac. Battle commences. The ac gets sunk.
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@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
Think I know what the problem is.
“a transport is not allowed to offload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing 1 or more ignored enemy submarines unless at least 1 warship belonging to the attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase”
The thing is that you attack the sea zone with 1 ac. Battle commences. The ac gets sunk.
but I didn’t attack the sub. I ignored it, which is allowed so long as there’s at least one warship present. and a CV is a warship.
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What I understand it you can only ignore it if the sub chooses to submerge instead of fight during the CM. This sub would chose to fight.
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@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
What I understand it you can only ignore it if the sub chooses to submerge instead of fight during the CM. This sub would chose to fight.
no that’s not right, a long sub can be ignored during an amphibious assault
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@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
What I understand it you can only ignore it if the sub chooses to submerge instead of fight during the CM. This sub would chose to fight.
no that’s not right, a long sub can be ignored during an amphibious assault
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@trulpen so the decision is in the attacker’s hands
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@axis-dominion said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 A-QF axis-dominion (X) vs trulpen (A+25) BM3:
What I understand it you can only ignore it if the sub chooses to submerge instead of fight during the CM. This sub would chose to fight.
no that’s not right, a long sub can be ignored during an amphibious assault
Yes, during the amphi, but not during the sea-battle preceding the amphi. I’m pretty certain, but if you want we can get a ruling.
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