#1 trulpen (X) vs Entek (A) WaW

[trulpen]

Happy New Year!

[Entek]

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War, version: 2.1.1

Game History

Round: 10

    Combat Move - Americans
        4 Elites moved from Wake to 95 Sea Zone
        3 Adv.Fighters, 4 Elites and 1 L.Fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Minamitori
        2 Elites moved from Midway to 89 Sea Zone
        2 Elites and 1 Transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 Elites moved from 95 Sea Zone to Minamitori
        1 Destroyer and 1 Submarine moved from 89 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 L.Fighter moved from Midway to Minamitori
        1 Bomber moved from Midway to Minamitori
        1 S.Bomber moved from Midway to Minamitori
        1 Infantry moved from Johnston to 97 Sea Zone
        1 Elite moved from Midway to 97 Sea Zone
        1 Elite, 1 Infantry and 1 Transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Woleai
        2 L.Fighters moved from Pearl Harbor to Minamitori
        3 Tanks moved from E.Morocco to N.Tunisia
        4 Infantrys moved from W.Morocco to E.Morocco
        2 Artillerys moved from W.Morocco to 31 Sea Zone
        2 Elites moved from Mauritania to 31 Sea Zone
        3 Elites moved from W.Morocco to 31 Sea Zone
        1 Elite moved from Mauritania to 31 Sea Zone
        2 ArmoredCars moved from Mauritania to French Equatorial Africa
              French take French Equatorial Africa from Italians
        1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Artillerys, 1 B.Transport, 1 Carrier, 7 Destroyers, 6 Elites, 1 Fighter and 2 Transports moved from 31 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Artillerys, 1 B.Transport, 1 Carrier, 7 Destroyers, 6 Elites, 1 Fighter and 2 Transports moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 Artillerys and 6 Elites moved from 42 Sea Zone to N.Tunisia
        2 Artillerys, 11 Elites and 5 Infantrys moved from E.Morocco to N.Algeria

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Bunker, 3 Destroyers, 10 Elites, 1 S.Bomber and 3 Tanks; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Minamitori
            Americans attack with 3 Adv.Fighters, 1 Bomber, 6 Elites, 4 L.Fighters and 1 S.Bomber
            Hisaichi defend with 3 Infantrys
                Americans roll dice for 3 Battleships in Minamitori, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Minamitori
                Americans roll dice for 3 Adv.Fighters, 1 Bomber, 6 Elites, 4 L.Fighters and 1 S.Bomber in Minamitori, round 2 : 7/15 hits, 7.17 expected hits
                Yamamoto roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Minamitori, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in Minamitori
            Americans win, taking Minamitori from Yamamoto with 3 Adv.Fighters, 1 Bomber, 6 Elites, 4 L.Fighters and 1 S.Bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Hisaichi: 3 Infantrys
        Battle in Woleai
            Americans attack with 1 Elite and 1 Infantry
            Yamamoto defend with 1 Tank
                Americans roll dice for 1 Elite and 1 Infantry in Woleai, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Yamamoto roll dice for 1 Tank in Woleai, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 Tank owned by the Yamamoto lost in Woleai
            Americans win, taking Woleai from Yamamoto with 1 Elite and 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Yamamoto: 1 Tank

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 Destroyer moved from 88 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
        1 S.Bomber moved from Minamitori to Wake
        1 Bomber moved from Minamitori to Wake
        4 L.Fighters moved from Minamitori to 95 Sea Zone
        3 Adv.Fighters moved from Minamitori to 95 Sea Zone
        1 Infantry moved from Palmyra to 98 Sea Zone
        1 Infantry moved from Christmas to 98 Sea Zone
        2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        2 Infantrys moved from 89 Sea Zone to Midway
        3 Elites moved from San Francisco to 83 Sea Zone
        1 Infantry moved from San Francisco to 83 Sea Zone
        1 B.Transport, 3 Elites and 1 Infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        3 Elites and 1 Infantry moved from 89 Sea Zone to Midway
        1 Destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
        1 B.Transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        4 Elites moved from Bahia to 35 Sea Zone
        1 B.Transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 B.Transport and 4 Elites moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        4 Elites moved from 36 Sea Zone to Mauritania
        1 B.Transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 B.Transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        4 Elites moved from South Atlantic USA to 26 Sea Zone
        1 B.Transport and 4 Elites moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        4 Elites moved from 32 Sea Zone to Bahia

    Place Units - Americans
        1 Bunker placed in Wake
        2 Elites placed in Wake
        1 Adv.Fighter placed in Midway
        3 Destroyers placed in 91 Sea Zone
        3 Elites placed in South Atlantic USA
        1 Elite placed in South Central USA
        3 Elites placed in San Francisco
        3 Tanks placed in Rio de Oro
        1 Elite placed in Salvador
        1 S.Bomber placed in San Francisco

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 105 PUs; end with 106 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Yamamoto regular : -1.17
Americans regular : -0.67

Savegame

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War, version: 2.1.1

Game History

Round: 11

    Combat Move - Germans
        6 Artillerys and 1 Infantry moved from Languedoc to Aragon
        1 Infantry moved from Aquitaine to Aragon
        1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Catalonia to La Mancha
        4 Infantrys moved from Catalonia to La Mancha
        1 Infantry moved from Catalonia to La Mancha
        3 Infantrys moved from Catalonia to Aragon
        1 Infantry moved from Catalonia to Aragon
        1 Mech.Inf moved from Catalonia to La Mancha
        2 HeavyTanks and 10 Tanks moved from Kuybyshev to Sverdlovsk
        1 Infantry moved from Gorky to Kirov
        1 Infantry moved from Vologda to Kirov
        2 JetFighters moved from Saratov to Kirov
        2 JetFighters moved from Saratov to Sverdlovsk
        1 Stuka moved from Paris to Aragon
        1 Stuka moved from Paris to Aragon
        1 Adv.Fighter moved from Vyborg to Kirov
        5 Infantrys and 1 Mech.Inf moved from Navarre to La Mancha
        1 Stuka moved from Languedoc to Aragon
        2 Tanks moved from Equatoria to French Equatorial Africa

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 Artillerys, 1 Carrier, 1 Elite, 3 HeavyTanks, 2 JetFighters, 9 Mech.Infs and 6 Tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in La Mancha
            Germans attack with 1 Artillery, 11 Infantrys and 2 Mech.Infs
            Neutral defend with 2 Infantrys
                Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery, 11 Infantrys and 2 Mech.Infs in La Mancha, round 2 : 2/14 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                Neutral roll dice for 2 Infantrys in La Mancha, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 Infantry owned by the Germans and 2 Infantrys owned by the Neutral lost in La Mancha
            Germans loses 0 PUs for violating La Manchas neutrality.
            Germans win, taking La Mancha from Neutral with 1 Artillery, 10 Infantrys and 2 Mech.Infs remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry
            Casualties for Neutral: 2 Infantrys
        Battle in Aragon
            Germans attack with 6 Artillerys, 6 Infantrys and 3 Stukas
            Neutral defend with 2 Bunkers and 3 Infantrys
                Germans roll dice for 6 Artillerys, 6 Infantrys and 3 Stukas in Aragon, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 5,50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 Bunker owned by the Neutral
                Neutral roll dice for 2 Bunkers and 3 Infantrys in Aragon, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                1 Bunker owned by the Neutral, 2 Infantrys owned by the Germans and 3 Infantrys owned by the Neutral lost in Aragon
                Germans roll dice for 6 Artillerys, 4 Infantrys and 3 Stukas in Aragon, round 3 : 3/13 hits, 4,83 expected hits
                Neutral roll dice for 1 Bunker in Aragon, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 Bunker owned by the Neutral lost in Aragon
            Germans loses 0 PUs for violating Aragons neutrality.
            Germans win, taking Aragon from Neutral with 6 Artillerys, 4 Infantrys and 3 Stukas remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Germans: 2 Infantrys
            Casualties for Neutral: 2 Bunkers and 3 Infantrys
        Battle in Sverdlovsk
            Germans attack with 2 HeavyTanks, 2 JetFighters and 10 Tanks
            Russians defend with 1 AAGun, 1 Factory and 10 Infantrys
                Russians roll AA dice in Sverdlovsk : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 HeavyTanks, 2 JetFighters and 10 Tanks in Sverdlovsk, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 7,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 10 Infantrys in Sverdlovsk, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3,33 expected hits
                6 Infantrys owned by the Russians and 3 Tanks owned by the Germans lost in Sverdlovsk
                Germans roll dice for 2 HeavyTanks, 2 JetFighters and 7 Tanks in Sverdlovsk, round 3 : 6/11 hits, 6,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 Infantrys in Sverdlovsk, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                4 Infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Sverdlovsk
            Germans captures 52PUs while taking Russians capital
            Germans win, taking Sverdlovsk from Russians with 2 HeavyTanks, 2 JetFighters and 7 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Germans: 3 Tanks
            Casualties for Russians: 10 Infantrys
        Battle in Kirov
            Germans attack with 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters
            Russians defend with 1 Infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in Kirov, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Kirov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 Infantry owned by the Russians and 1 Infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kirov
            Germans win, taking Kirov from Russians with 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Infantry and 2 JetFighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry
        Battle in French Equatorial Africa
            Germans attack with 2 Tanks
            Americans defend with 2 ArmoredCars
                Germans roll dice for 2 Tanks in French Equatorial Africa, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 ArmoredCars in French Equatorial Africa, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                2 ArmoredCars owned by the Americans and 1 Tank owned by the Germans lost in French Equatorial Africa
            Germans win, taking French Equatorial Africa from French with 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 Tank
            Casualties for Americans: 2 ArmoredCars

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 Destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        1 Elite and 16 Infantrys moved from Rostov to Tula
        1 Infantry moved from Penza to Kuybyshev
        1 Infantry moved from Tula to Penza
        16 Infantrys moved from Minsk to Kursk
        1 Infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Vologda
        1 Infantry moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl
        3 Infantrys moved from Smolensk to Kursk
        1 Infantry moved from Krakow to Danzig
        3 Infantrys moved from Stockholm to 24 Sea Zone
        2 Infantrys and 2 Transports moved from 24 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        2 Artillerys moved from Hamburg to 23 Sea Zone
        2 Artillerys, 2 Infantrys and 2 Transports moved from 23 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 Artillerys and 3 Infantrys moved from 24 Sea Zone to Vyborg
        7 Infantrys moved from Brest to Minsk
        4 Infantrys moved from Warsaw to Brest
        3 Infantrys moved from Krakow to Brest
        4 Infantrys moved from Vinnytsia to Donetsk
        4 Infantrys moved from Donetsk to Rostov
        5 Infantrys moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
        5 HeavyTanks moved from Bohemia to Vinnytsia
        4 Tanks moved from Hungary to Vinnytsia
        2 Stukas moved from Burgundy to Krakow
        2 JetFighters moved from Rhine to Vyborg
        2 JetFighters moved from Kirov to Vyborg
        1 Adv.Fighter moved from Kirov to Kuybyshev
        2 JetFighters moved from Sverdlovsk to Kuybyshev
        1 Tank moved from Tula to Kuybyshev
        1 Tank moved from Switzerland to Bohemia
        6 Mech.Infs moved from Switzerland to Krakow
        4 Infantrys moved from Switzerland to Provence
        3 Infantrys moved from Switzerland to Lombardy
        1 Infantry moved from Brittany to Aquitaine
        1 Infantry moved from Orleanais to Aquitaine
        1 Infantry moved from Normandy to Brittany
        1 Infantry moved from Paris to Orleanais
        1 Infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy
        1 Infantry moved from Burgundy to Languedoc
        1 Infantry moved from Paris to Orleanais
        1 Infantry moved from Picardy to Burgundy
        1 Infantry moved from Normandy to Brittany
        1 Infantry moved from Normandy to Orleanais
        1 Infantry moved from Normandy to Picardy
        2 Infantrys moved from Rhine to Hamburg
        3 Carriers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        2 Battleships, 2 Destroyers and 5 Submarines moved from 21 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        5 Adv.Fighters and 1 Fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to Vyborg
        1 Stuka moved from Aragon to Orleanais
        1 Stuka moved from Aragon to Aquitaine
        1 Stuka moved from Aragon to Aquitaine

    Place Units - Germans
        3 HeavyTanks and 2 Tanks placed in Stalingrad
        4 Tanks placed in Vinnytsia
        3 Mech.Infs placed in Krakow
        4 Mech.Infs placed in Hungary
        2 Mech.Infs placed in Warsaw
        2 Artillerys and 1 Elite placed in Hamburg
        1 Carrier placed in 23 Sea Zone
        2 JetFighters placed in Warsaw

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 164 PUs; end with 216 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0,67
Russians regular : -1,00
Germans regular : -3,67
Russians AA : -0,33
Neutral regular : -0,17

Savegame

[Entek]

@trulpenplay I’m ready to call this one, another?

[trulpen]

@Entek said in #1 trulpen (X) vs Entek (A) WaW:

@trulpenplay I’m ready to call this one, another?

Yes, the Axis forces look a bit overwhelming now.

I’d like to play another one with you, but would require some rule-changes regarding primarily subs and trannies. Also don’t like the blitz-capability for mech, mot and a-cars. They should be able to join tanks on their blitz-endeavours though, but then they are clearly over-priced.

Changing costs would take extensive work, but on a short note I believe inf are too cheap. Maybe tanks as well.

[Entek]

@trulpen I’m not sure i’m up for all the changes dealing with the costs and what not, but what are your changes for the subs and transports?

[trulpen]

Regarding subs:

a) Can’t block movement
b) Can’t be hit by air unless there is atleast one opposing des present
c) Des cancel subs abilities of first-strike and unrestricted movement
d) Defense-value of 1
e) Cost 6

I’m pretty definite regarding a-c, while I feel d-e makes for a better balance in relation to des, but not as crucial. As the game works now there’s really no point in paying 1 IPC more for a des, when you can get an even better ship with a sub.

I really don’t like that trannies have defense value. I’d prefer to play with the G40-rules there, that they have 0 defense and also can’t be taken as causalties before war-ships and/or air.

[Entek]

@trulpen I think the sub blocking was changed in the newest version. The air we can just agree on. DD’s in this keep the ship around to return fire, where if there wasn’t a DD and the SS hit a ship it would just be lost without return fire. What is the SS defense value? I think them not being able to hit air makes them weaker than the DD’s if we keep the rest the same.

I agree about the AKs but i don’t know an easy fix for it, and it would be unwieldy if we tried to change it in game.

[trulpen]

Subs defend @2. In my book that’s just bad, since they’re cheaper than des and much better because of the first-strike and sneak. In a fleet you only need 1 des and then the rest subs. Haven’t seen a serious sub-spam yet though.

Maybe keep the cost for subs at 7, but lower their defense to @1?

AK? Is that transport?

It’s possible to change the game-file. Another option is to just move out any trannies before battles, but I’d prefer the latter.

[Entek]

@trulpen Yes, AK is transport, I don’t know why, but it is.

I’m fine with the changes if the can be made in the files.

[trulpen]

@entek said in #1 trulpen (X) vs Entek (A) WaW:

@trulpen Yes, AK is transport, I don’t know why, but it is.

I’m fine with the changes if the can be made in the files.

Great! I’ll look into it.