L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3


  • pivotal decisions as the outcome could decide the game.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    scrambles/intercepts. Three zones to consider.

    Also, order of losses please.

    OOL is difficult to decide before dice.

    I’ll scramble 3 figs to z113, covering the fleet.


  • 8 hits. losses?


  • a) dmg bs (1)
    b) 2 ac (4)
    c) 2 des (2)
    d) 1 tac (1)


  • your dice was deadly, hitting 12 times. Ouch


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 11

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 11
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 marine moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from France to Western Germany
            9 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from France to 113 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
            Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany
                    Germans roll AA dice in Western Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 8 and causes: 6 damage to unit: airfield
                Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 6 damage total. 
            Battle in Denmark
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in 21 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 21 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Denmark from Germans, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 12 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 6 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
                6 submarines owned by the Germans submerged
                    Americans roll dice for 12 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/16 hits, 8.67 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 12/16 hits, 8.33 expected hits
                    2 destroyers owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 10 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans retreated
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 6 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -63
                Casualties for Americans: 10 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 1 tactical_bomber
            Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Cleaning up after air battles
                1 fighter owned by the Germans and 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans forced to land in Western Germany
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Johnston Island to 30 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Johnston Island to 30 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 aaGun moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in Western United States
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Morocco: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Morocco: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 4 submarines
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 91 Sea Zone: 2 submarines
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 92 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 94 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 89 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.67
    Germans AA : -0.17
    Germans regular : 3.67
    

    Savegame


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    your dice was deadly, hitting 12 times. Ouch

    Well, need to be lucky all the way. Should’ve saved a des.

    I wanted the 2 fig, 1 tac to land in Berlin.


  • @trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    your dice was deadly, hitting 12 times. Ouch

    Well, need to be lucky all the way. Should’ve saved a des.

    I wanted the 2 fig, 1 tac to land in Berlin.

    Sorry, 1 fig, 2 tac.


  • @trulpen oops, forgot you had that option. I am going to need to reconsider my combat.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    @trulpen oops, forgot you had that option. I am going to need to reconsider my combat.

    Sure thing.


  • I will reload and take the dice results for the battles that are already completed in W Europe. It will be a few edits.


  • hmmm, can I not just ignore the German subs for the amphibious landing if those are the only units left? It has been a long time since I remember these rules.


  • I think I messed up…


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    hmmm, can I not just ignore the German subs for the amphibious landing if those are the only units left? It has been a long time since I remember these rules.

    The tr can’t unload if there are unchecked subs. Need a war-ship along and then they can be ignored.


  • well, there goes that plan. Guess it is game over.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    well, there goes that plan. Guess it is game over.

    That’s sad, but I see what you mean. G will likely reclaim Paris and gain a secure hold on the western front, while still having a smashing position in the east.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 11

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 11
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany
            1 fighter moved from France to Germany
            3 fighters moved from France to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to 113 Sea Zone
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • hmmm… any chance that I could redo that battle, bringing in the destroyer to take on the subs. Or should I just call it a game and post?


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L21 #1 trulpen (X) vs Arthur Bomber Harris (A+20) BM3:

    hmmm… any chance that I could redo that battle, bringing in the destroyer to take on the subs. Or should I just call it a game and post?

    It’s silly to lose because of a messup of the rules.

    However, dice have been rolled. We can try and adjust for it, if you want. The problem with the des is of course that the 4 hits in the first battle-round will be allocated on the subs, which means the following battle-round will be a bit hellish to adjust for.

    Did you save the outcome of that battle? I’m not certain I can deduct the correct dispersion of dice from the mail only.


  • the only thing that I can really do is to restart after the first round of dice rolling. You would have 3 subs, 1 cruiser, a tipped carrier, a tipped battleship, and 2 fighters. I would have 2 cruisers, 2 fighters, a bomber, and 1 destroyer left. I would still need to roll for that 1 destroyer. Odds of my victory are are 10%.

    Let me know if I should continue to roll on the forum.

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