TT General Death (X) vs MajikAndrew (A+61) OOB

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    TripleA Turn Summary: French round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  ANZAC take Tobruk from Italians
    
        Combat - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in New South Wales
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  French take Tunisia from Italians
    
        Combat - French
    
        Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
            1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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  • TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            2 armour moved from Poland to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Poland to 114 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
    

    Savegame


  • @DrakeMortis said in TT General Death (X) vs MajikAndrew (A+61) OOB:

    TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            2 armour moved from Poland to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Poland to 114 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
    

    Savegame

    Scramble/submerge request sea zone #115.


  • @DrakeMortis said in TT General Death (X) vs MajikAndrew (A+61) OOB:

    Scramble/submerge request sea zone #115.

    Sub fights unless ignored. No scramble.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            2 armour moved from Poland to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Poland to 114 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 115 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 2 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers in Novgorod, round 2 : 8/13 hits, 6.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                    2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 3 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in Novgorod, round 3 : 5/9 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 armour, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            5 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Eastern Poland
            3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            3 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 27 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
            3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            2 artilleries moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in France
            1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            3 armour, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 113 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,3,5
            Germans collect 39 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 39 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 0.33
    Germans regular : 0.83
    

    Savegame


  • Had to edit the submarine into sea zone 125. For some reason the game wasn’t allowing me to do it on the non combat move.


  • Well done Gentlemen. Have not seen that trap before and you two set it up perfectly.


  • @DrakeMortis That is because subs have lost their stealth. Are we all on the same game version? I am on 2.5.22294.


  • @AndrewAAGamer said in TT General Death (X) vs MajikAndrew (A+61) OOB:

    @DrakeMortis That is because subs have lost their stealth. Are we all on the same game version? I am on 2.5.22294.

    I have the same version as Andrew.


  • @majikforce I was not aware of that in this version. so do we need to edit the sub out of that sea zone then? Also, when did this occur? I feel I’ve played this version lots and always remember the subs having stealth, except for when enemy destroyers are present.


  • @AndrewAAGamer the game did not give me the option to ignore your submarine. It went immediately to combat and did not give your sub the option to submerge at any point.


  • @DrakeMortis The subs are supposed to have stealth. That’s why I was asking which engine version people had because this is an error that I have seen before when the game version engines are mismatched.


  • @AndrewAAGamer does this rule variance also allow for aircraft to attack subs without the aid of a destroyer?


  • @AndrewAAGamer Ok that makes a lot more sense. I have version 2.2.20868. How do we correct this going forward?

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    As far as I know, the file will be corrupted even if you start using identical versions going forward, so would have to do things manually. Witt and I had same problem


  • @Colt45554 said in TT General Death (X) vs MajikAndrew (A+61) OOB:

    As far as I know, the file will be corrupted even if you start using identical versions going forward, so would have to do things manually. Witt and I had same problem

    Well crud.

    Okay so checking the Forum the current stable is 2.5.22294. So I would suggest we all update to that version if not there already.

    If Colt45554 is right then going forward we will need to manually remove subs from SZ’s that we want to ignore then add them back in after combat. What a pain…

    Axis Team - Since the Allied Team said the Russian sub would fight if the Axis wants to fight the Russian sub then no changes would occur; the battles stand as rolled. If the Axis wants to ignore the sub then we will need to reroll the battle by removing the sub first then reroll the battle. Since the dice were better than average I doubt you would elect this choice however it is your choice if you want to reroll the battle.

    Majikforce please hold till we get a decision from the Axis…


  • Will hold. I think if we all have the latest version you posted we shouldn’t have the sub issue anymore. But I could be wrong.

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    Let the roll stand as is. Continue the good fight:)


  • @GeneralDisarray said in TT General Death (X) vs MajikAndrew (A+61) OOB:

    Let the roll stand as is. Continue the good fight:)

    Thanks Joe! Umm, or Andy. Forgot which is which.

    Fire away Majikforce!

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    TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 artillery moved from Belarus to Novgorod
    
        Combat - Russians
            Russians creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                British loiter and taunt; Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 125 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 aaGun and 19 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Russia
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 infantry placed in Volgograd
            3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 1.33
    Russians regular : 0.67
    

    Savegame

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