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TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 96 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in Philippines Battle in Caroline Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese roll AA dice in Caroline Islands : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 2 destroyers, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Iceland to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Chinese Guerilla Hunan: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Hunan 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hopei Combat - Chinese Chinese creates battle in territory Hunan Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Hopei to Shensi 1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya British take Libya from Italians 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Syria to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Romania 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syria to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 2 fighters moved from India to Shan State 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone Combat - British Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 97 Sea Zone Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in Crete British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Crete, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Crete, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Crete, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Crete, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Crete, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Crete, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Crete British roll dice for 1 artillery in Crete, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Crete, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Crete, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Crete, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Crete, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Crete, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Crete Italians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Iraq British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.50 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 2.50 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Shan State British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State retreated to Shan State Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Malta British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Malta British win, taking Malta from Italians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Romania British attack with 1 bomber Italians defend with 1 armour British roll dice for 1 bomber in Romania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Romania, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Romania Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for British: 1 bomber Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in 97 Sea Zone British attack with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters British roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 cruisers owned by the Italians and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone British roll dice for 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 3 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 cruisers owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 3 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 4/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 transport owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yugoslavia 1 transport owned by the British retreated to 96 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 battleship and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -52 Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport Casualties for Italians: 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter Battle in Northern Italy British attack with 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 factory_major, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy British roll dice for 1 fighter in Northern Italy, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Northern Italy, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Northern Italy, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Northern Italy, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Northern Italy Italians win with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 fighter Moving scrambled unit from 97 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from Shan State to West India 1 aaGun moved from Burma to India 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to West India 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Persia 3 submarines placed in 98 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,5 British collect 32 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 32 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.00 Americans regular : 1.33 Italians regular : 1.00 Japanese regular : -0.33 Japanese AA : 0.83 Germans regular : 0.50 Neutral_Axis regular : -0.33 British regular : -6.33 -
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that’s our trophy
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@Gargantua said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
British regular : -6.33
Well that’s the game.
I’ll let Karl move NCMs if he wants to continue.
The miss isn’t your trophy. It’s the 4/4 x 2.
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followed by:
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Twice AD. Not once… twice.
And after Romania lol.
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@Gargantua said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
Twice AD. Not once… twice.
And after Romania lol.
yah but too many risky battles, you’ll get called out on that for sure
I agree it’s good game
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Play with fire DIE by fire as you say. Romania definetely being risky. Sz97… definetly not so much so…
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@Gargantua said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
Play with fire DIE by fire as you say. Romania definetely being risky. Sz97… definetly not so much so…
no I disagree totally, you go really big on 97 with like 90+ odds or don’t do it… it’ll bite you in the ass. for me, that kind of scramble is a no-brainer. same kind of thing happened to ksmckay in my recent game with him, and he went in with even higher odds than you did
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I mean, Romania you’re just risking a bomber, so not really that risky… but 97 is a game decider if you lose, but not for us if we lose
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The intent was to cripple the italian can open. Yes there was “some” risk. But if italies can-open could be permanently crippled, Moscow could be saved against the “grouping” schedule you guys run.
Also, we strategized early that the best way to break you guys off your game, was to make it a chippy west coast offence game. grinding up the risk.
Romania was ugly, but Sz97, was reasonably calculated. 0 hits round 2 instead of an average of 4, against a maxium defense x2, is definelty a 1% axis outcome ;)
That’s just how it goes.
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nah don’t do 97 unless you go in big. sorry that’s just a bad move
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@axis-dominion said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
nah don’t do 97 unless you go in big. sorry that’s just a bad move
A matter of opinion.
Had the dice gone the other way in Romania and Sz97, we would be having a much different conversation. :)
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if that bomber went to 97 instead, that would’ve bumped the odds to over 90%, we likely wouldn’t have scrambled. that would’ve made a huge difference for you guys. that one tank in Romania really that important to put your entire game at stake in 97??
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@Gargantua said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
@axis-dominion said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
nah don’t do 97 unless you go in big. sorry that’s just a bad move
A matter of opinion.
Had the dice gone the other way in Romania and Sz97, we would be having a much different conversation. :)
I guess you’re not understanding my point. luck aside, you guys put your entire game at stake in 97, but it didn’t have to be that way. if we lost badly, it would most definitely NOT have been game over for us… we can afford that loss, but allies can NOT.
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If my bomber had gone to Sz97, the result would not have changed.
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@Gargantua said in TT adam-dominion (Axis) vs The Rum and the Fury (Allies+18) BM3:
If my bomber had gone to Sz97, the result would not have changed.
oh yes it would’ve as we likely would not have scrambled
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the plan was interesting and I admire that, but man that one tank in Romania really wasn’t worth going in a lot weaker in 97
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@axis-dominion the point was to make you scramble :) so I could snap those Italian planes out of the sky too, or break up the German air stack.
So I’m glad I calculated the precise threshold that would determine your scramble :)
Alas, too bad the center did not hold lol
Was fun gentlemen. Let Karl decide the games future. I did not make UKs ncm.
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Wow. I haven’t seen bad dice like that in awhile.
We mulled over that move, and we should have won. But so it goes.
GG
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