Mainah (X) v Stough (L) OOB III

[Stough]

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from French West Africa to 92 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from French West Africa to 92 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 tactical_bomber moved from French West Africa to 92 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Morocco
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 tactical_bombers
            Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 transports
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 transports in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 92 Sea Zone
            Italians win, taking Morocco from Italians with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -22
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        6 fighters moved from French West Africa to Egypt
        1 tactical_bomber moved from French West Africa to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Italians regular : 1.33

Savegame

[Stough]

TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter and 16 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Shensi

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Stough]

Why is your transport in 98 blocking me? He should have no impact on movement or combat.

[mainah]

@Stough
It’s not. Italy controls Trans-Jordan. To go through the Suez canal, your side must be in control of both Egypt and Trans Jordan at the beginning of the players turn. So if UK recaptures Trans-jordan this turn, it can not go through the Suez canal, as it was not in control at the beginning of the turn. But on the next anzac turn, anzac could, as it was in allied control at the beginning of Anzac’s turn.

[Stough]

Ah. I see.
Also. Why can’t I attack the transports off of Italy with my planes, this also makes no sense to me.

[mainah]

@Stough
Its 3 spaces to get there. You have no adjacent landing spot. closest is Malta, but thats 1 - SZ 96, 1 move to Malta - for 2 total moves. There is no airbase in Egypt.

[Stough]

Jesus. Will I be able to move to the Med in my NCM?

[Stough]

You answered that already. That blows, not the rule, the circumstances I placed myself in. This game is over before it even began.

I’ll soldier on, but we have already arrived at the wings off a bug portion of the game.

[Stough]

What a bummer, despite the loss of Gib I was pretty pumped about this game.

[Stough]

There is no coming back form this. IF UK has to waste their time fighting an equal Italy, everything else falls. I’ll tap out.

Ready for game 4

[mainah]

@Stough
This is a harsh lesson. Funny - I didn’t learn it till a few weeks ago, on my third game.
Gib is key. and Sometimes you lose it - for a bit. Perfer not to, but it happens. Here, it’s not so much that you lost it - you are at least 2 turns out from regaining it. You gave me an opening to resupply it on G’s turn. That was key.
That’s 4 turns you can’t threaten italy proper through the eastern med- and then, you need at least 1 UK and 1 US loaded transport, plus the air you have - and Italy with a little G help will keep the Eastern Med fleet next to Egypt. So you are 6 turns away from threatening Italy proper. That is huge breathing room for the Axis.

[mainah]

@Stough
Ok. Axis normally sets up. Do you want to have a go at it? There is a link for a youtube tutorial on Triple A’s home page.

[Stough]

All very true.
Gib was an enormous blow no doubt. At that point, my goal was for you to load up Gib, and then strand them. And KJF.
But that , or anything, doesn’t work with a pumped up Italy and no way to reasonably take them down.
I had a small chance if I placed a navy in UK4 in the Med. No chance without.

[Stough]

Yep; I’ll check it out.

[mainah]

@Stough
I’m going to be a bit blunt - but its all for constructive purposes.
Yeah - that was my last run to gib. Plan from here was to reenforce africa just a bit - to slow you down. And take trans jordan again for 1 more round if opportunity presented. Ger was to station the 2 figjters from gib to southern italy, along with the tac. Plus another DD and a couple of subs, for 2-3 turns - med secure through the next 4 turns solid. Another turn or to before you strangle the med. Thats8-10 turns of italy making decent money and setting up a proper defense of southern europe.

KJF would have been hard with your fleet moves. Even if you cant advance the fleet, try to keep it (assuming less than a 75% attack from japan) in Queensland. You need to provide enough of a threat that j cant move his whole navy and more importantly air at will.
And china’s stack is gone next turn. Better to hold territories at the front with 1 guy. Bleeds japan more, stretches his forces along a large front, and elongates japan’s logistics train.
But hey! The axis are much easier to start with, and easier to learn and appreciate, especially after the allies. I should know. That’s how i went from my first insane but kicking to a more civilized but still stern but kicking. On the receiving end. Smaller focus, more forces at the beginning, so minor purchasing or positioning mistakes are not catastrophic 3 turns later!

[Stough]

Yep, I wanted you to take down that stack. It was calculated to move my timeline in China forward, reduce your land units and bring more units to China.

Anyhow, my intent in this game was to converge on Japan from 4 directions simultaneously. 5; if you count the Med fleet along my Indian advance. ( I was thinking of adding the US transports in the Atlantic and swinging them to the Far East Asia, but dropping them in North Africa seemed more useful.)

My Russian/Chinese were 1-2 turns behind that timeline. So, I was in a position of attacking in echelon, which I am not a fan of, or attacking en masse, which is much better. The Chinese gambit was an effort to speed up the timeline. In the end, the Chinese would never take Kiangsi, the Russians would, or the Indians. Hence my view of their forces as expendable early. At some point, someone has to come out and fight. I wanted the Japanese to be weaker when that happened. Keeping the Chinese stack meant just pushing you back into an ever enlarging stack, which would have been difficult for the Russians to take down. In a sense, it was exactly what you did with your Japanese Air Force in the last game, I just did it 4-5 turns earlier.

At the end of that convergence, if successful. Japan would be back on its island, so I hoped, and then I could work on reducing and defeating the other two Axis.

Keep in mind, I haven’t played enough games to full length to know what the timeline will look like around turn 7-9. Without practical experience of seeing what/how/where many units are on the board on those turns, I have no idea when to push or how long I can hold back.

Also, this is my first KJF- which I’m starting to like a lot as a strategy.
And I have some ideas on how to do that that I haven’t seen discussed on the boards; at least not yet. Maybe these ideas are foolish, but without playing it out, I’ll never know.

The good news is I should by trying them on a version that is not OOB, since that is the preferred version of play.

What you are teaching me is that if my foot work sucks, no amount of strategy will overcome it.

Thanks for the lesson. Because my footwork is pretty terrible right now.

In the meantime, I have started listening to the world’s most boring youtube video and hopefully, with my magic decoder ring , will be able to set up a new game with me as the Axis.

I am not optimistic about my chances, but it’s going to feel great to be able to attack.

[Stough]

BTW- are you getting the email for game IV?

[Stough]

Sorry, not the email, but the forum notice.

[mainah]

@Stough
Not yet

[Stough]

try this https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35884/mainah-v-stough-oob-iv/4