Mainah (X) vs Stough (L) OOB 2nd go


  • On to the Germans.

    I really like your strategy; especially in the PAC.

    I’m doing much better now managing the tech. Much more oriented to the map and the bells and whistles.

    As to the game, wow. There are so many moving parts as the Allies and so many areas of movement and conflict- it’s easy to get lazy and miss stuff.

    I don’t like my odds, but this is a very fun game.

  • '23 '20

    @Stough
    Funny - you say that - while i am happy about japan - i dont like my odds in europe. Even in my game with a veteran (he’s top in tier 1 in the league) It’s the same - i’m doing way better in the pac than europe.
    We’ll see how it goes.

  • '23 '20

    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Belarus to Ukraine
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Ukraine
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Belarus
            2 bombers moved from Ukraine to Belarus
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 artillery moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from France to Western Germany
            3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Archangel
            5 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            4 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            2 artilleries moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            8 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel
            6 armour moved from Belarus to Archangel
            9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            3 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            3 armour placed in Novgorod
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
            1 bomber, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 bomber, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 0.67
    Germans regular : -0.17
    

    Savegame

  • '23 '20

    @Stough
    Please note - BETTER. Not good. In the Pac I’m not losing, but I’m not gaining as much as I should to win in the long run. But over-coming the Bryansk stack while holding off the US / UK - I have a long ways to go.

  • '23 '20

    @mainah
    Actually - i’m looking at the board no gor G7 - and its not that I’m not losing , its more like I’m not losing as bad as in europe.
    He’s really good.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 5

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • The game asks for a scramble, but your planes can’t hit my sub, so I’ll ignore it. I can’t express how pleased I am to have the Russians kill something permanently. A tiny victory.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                Russians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai
            2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai
            6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Tsinghai
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Novosibirsk
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 44 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
            2 artilleries moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
    
        Place Units - Russians
            10 infantry placed in Russia
            2 infantry placed in Volgograd
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -1.00
    Russians regular : -2.17
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 5

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                Russians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai
            2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai
            6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Tsinghai
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Novosibirsk
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 44 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
            2 artilleries moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
    
        Place Units - Russians
            10 infantry placed in Russia
            2 infantry placed in Volgograd
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Tsinghai: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Novosibirsk: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -1.00
    Russians regular : -2.17
    

    Savegame


  • On the the Rising Son. Russia is ready to enter the third tier stats of Italy, UK India and ANZAC.

    Had to edit my Russian tac, use the map above. I am quite certain that I missed a whole bunch of things the Russians could have done better, but Frankly, this is the best I could come up with at the moment.


  • Jesus, my spelling- onto the Rising Sun.


  • Also, how does the sub economic soaking work? When is that accounted?

  • '23 '20

    @Stough
    I assume you are refering to convoying? Any ship an plane in a convoy spot can affect the money.
    Its calculated at the end of the turn of the power whose is being convoyed. For sz 97, currently, it is assessed at the collect income phase of italy. 4-5 ships in 97 pretty much means italy no longer collects any money

  • '23 '20

    As far as a better russia turn - i dunno. We know better in a turn or two. Hindsight is 20/20.

  • '23 '20

    Russia ia pressuring japan. While japan needs some heat applied to them, I’m unsure if russia, or at least that much of russian troops, is the way to do it, with germany knocking on moscow’s gates. On the flip side - western and southern europe is 2 turn’s from being a serious issue for germany. Italy has to turttle now. And pivoting the us to focus on japan right now is probably not the solution - you’d lose momentum in europe.
    The brits are going to be able to hold southern russia for a bit - maybe longer. I guess the real question is, how does japan move from here. That is what will decide wether or not your russia move was good. And even though i am the axis - i dont have an answer yet. Probably wont know for 2 turns, wether i do it right, or see how i went wrong.
    Again - my tactics are pretty good, not great, but pretty good, but my big strategy is very limited.

  • '23 '20

    And you were smart in how rhe ruskies moved into china. You kept the mongolian pact active, and japan is not in a good position to deal with thise 6 extra inf on the nothern border alkng with the 18 rus inf on the western border.
    Dont think i could have done better.


  • Thank you sir. I liked that little move. I wanted to kill your wagon (MI’s) in Kansu oh so badly, but apparently, the Mongol pact works both ways.

    If I had thought I was going to flush 9 Russians down the China toilet at the start of the game, I would have predicted a miserable defeat for the Allies.

    All I really know is that I had to give up Bryansk, which hurt my feelings. Which also probably means I’m doomed. The Reds aren’t dead yet- we’ll hold.

  • '23 '20

    @Stough
    Yes, you had to leave bryansk. But the southern money is safe for now, and that keeps 10 ipc NO bonus from going to germany, on top of the value of the territories. You are not doomed yet. Again - i am very concerned about my long term prospects in europe.


  • Yep. Europe is going to be a hot mess. On the one hand, I feel like I got there super quick, on the other , I feel like it’s take me forever. I haven’t made it this far before so this is all new territory, but I think this game is getting ready to be super complicated. My head already hurts.

    On a side note, I like my groovy 1960’s multi national navy in the Med. I can just hear the bongos in the drum circles. and smell the god awful Pucculli oil.

  • '23 '20

    TripleA Move Summary: Japanese round 5

    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Sikang
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Sikang
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Sikang
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
    

    Savegame

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