Vapid Delusional "Facts" or Ideas About A&A

[Militarized Milkmen]

Why are there no territories or sea zones where the polar regions should be? I mean, there were a lot of excursions to the poles during WW2 weren’t there? Why does not Axis and Allies board have Antarctica or anything like that?

[Imperious Leader]

Well Germany had a listening station on Greenland, latter US took over and removed it . Nobody bothered with it because it had no military value, hence not represented in the games. Germany also send some teams to Antarctica before the war, but it was scientific expedition not military. The fantasy types from the Art Bell crowd might start with flying saucers, Hitlers redoubt and junk like that, but it was only to get people to buy hot dogs and comics.

[Militarized Milkmen]

What about operation regenbogen

[Imperious Leader]

No Germans entered the Artic North or South except as previously described. Its Sci Fi

[Militarized Milkmen]

Battle of the Barents Sea
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The Battle of the Barents Sea was a World War II naval engagement on 31 December 1942 between warships of the German Navy (Kriegsmarine) and British ships escorting convoy JW 51B to Kola Inlet in the USSR. The action took place in the Barents Sea north of North Cape, Norway. The German raiders’ failure to inflict significant losses on the convoy infuriated Hitler, who ordered that German naval strategy would henceforth concentrate on the U-boat fleet rather than surface ships.

[Imperious Leader]

ok yea and?

[Militarized Milkmen]

Well that is a polar region

[General 6 Stars]

If there is only 1 battle or so it’s not enough to warrant in the game.
Your artic convoy route is enough. But that is for WW2

[Militarized Milkmen]

That’s fair but if they had the ability to go into and through those areas, shouldn’t the players be able to do so as well

[General 6 Stars]

If you wanted to for game play fantasy. But it comes down to when could they pass through ? Summer only ? Did they survive ? Could add in a die roll or 2 to see if survived.
Just to dangerous. Don’t think they had ice breakers then.

[Militarized Milkmen]

Yeah your probably right

[General 6 Stars]

Now this you could add some how to Cold War game

https://www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/nautilus-travels-under-north-pole

Have where a nuke sub only can cross upper arctic from pacific to Atlantic in 2 turns ?

[Militarized Milkmen]

Well that’s a big problem I’ve had. First of all the americans and russians have to cross the entire atlantic to bomb eachother, when in reality the could, and did, just fly north which was much easier. Also, a big part of russian nuclear doctrine was their arctic refuelling stations. However, either way the map is flat and the world is round, so I can’t think of many good solutions other than adding one or two special bottom rows that have spaces that are somewhat bigger to include the travel component. There would, of course be restrictions on movement however. I could draft something up, but it’s up to you Gen on if you wanna add it.

[Militarized Milkmen]

Apparently, many stations and bases were built in antarctica after ww2. I think it’s definitely worth including, but only if you willing to add to the map. I can create the designs as long as you can implement then if that works for you.

[General 6 Stars]

Well if they had it then it should go on map. How much did they use it

[General 6 Stars]

Also I would maybe change the title on thread to included 1955 Some confusion there with topic when most are thinking WW2

[Militarized Milkmen]

Well the original question was why other games don’t have it, the topic has just sort of morphed into something else.

[Militarized Milkmen]

Well it really depends. Russia had and does have a multitude of secret and not so secret refueling stations in the arctic. The idea was they would be using them to bomb the united States if nuclear war broke out. Thanks to russia being russia, its unclear how much they were actually used as war never broke out. America did not have any arctic refueling stations as they did not really need them thanks to aerial refueling. Either way, no one really owned the arctic, although I can solve that, powers just owned whatever they built there.

In antarctica, there were many more stations, owned by a multitasking of different powers, including Chile, UK, US, U.S.S.R., Brazil, Argentina, and I believe a few more. However, a majority of these stations were for research purposes only. I’m not sure what sort of research they did, exactly, up there, and Im not sure if it would even be enough to warrant a research center in the antarctica, especially since there is currently a rule requiring the territory to have a victory or capital city. However, there were almost always, military personnel on site in antarctica, and almost every base had multiple docks, harbors, air bases, and landing strips, so they would definitely warrant a territory.

I’m thinking maybe you have to pay a certain number of IPCs for each unit you have there, and maybe you have to have some sort of open shipping lane, or be able to reach it by bomber, not sure. The territory(s) will probably be special, sort of like the sahara. It might be possible to build research centers on them, even though they do not have capital or victory cities. They will likely start controlled by no power, but with units starting in them, with the choice of taking them or abiding by international law. I will probably also make it possible to make provoked declarations of war if people capture them. Not sure.

[Imperious Leader]

Germany built secret Battleships and flying saucers there. The 6th Army was transferred there after Stalingrad. In a final act, they launched a rocket to the moon to scare the Allies into surrender because of their capabilities…This is why in 1947 the US sent an entire fleet to investigate…and it was sunk by a mysterious light beam.

[Militarized Milkmen]

@Imperious-Leader That was hilarious but you missed the part when the U.S.S. Constitution was nicknamed Old Uraniumsides, after it successfully repelled a nuclear strike sent from Mars. Also, we are now talking about the Cold War, and it is no longer ridiculous to believe that military operations took place there.