Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Malta: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 49 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Poland to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians 1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to English Channel Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Hungary to East Poland 3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Combat - Germans Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine and 1 transport Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to France: 1 aaGun and 1 factory EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 aaGun and 1 factory EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in Gibraltar Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win, taking Gibraltar from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 2 armour moved from France to Germany 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 2 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 2 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 2 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 89 PUsTutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB
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I believe Moscow and then Norway are priorities.
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@trulpen Is moscow on the roadmap anytime soon? I don’t see that Germany+Italy can overcome the stalemate on the Eastern Front unless they get their income up. The only way to get that up is to reclaim Norway. The Med is lost.
I would attack Finland with ground troops and strafe Norway with the air force in the hope of getting lucky on G8. Perhaps send 18 mechs towards Greece that can be backed up with additional plane build. He needs to avoid the meat grinder in the Middle East.
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I reran the numbers and he actually could capture Moscow on G9 if he goes all out next round in preparation. He likely wouldn’t lose any of his air force during the raid, although insufficient ground units would exist to follow up for a run towards Egypt unless the dice heavily favor him.
The final push to the capitol would leave a big gap in the other fronts that the Allies would have three rounds to exploit. You would have room to establish a third beachhead in S France. I probably would take the gamble if I were Axis as there are few options to regain income now unless Moscow falls ASAP.
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Does this analysis include more allied air-reinforcements?
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@trulpen depending exactly on how Italy tries to help out, there is about a 60% chance of capturing Moscow. Many of those statistical victories are Pyrrhic with too few ground units to continue protecting the Eastern Front from a UK counter-push. I would give him about a 30% chance to win Moscow and still have 10-20 tanks left to continue expansion towards the Middle East.
G9 is his most likely moment to capture Moscow until perhaps G14. I see a continued growth in allied defenses there as Russia adds another 10 infantry/turn and UK+USA can probably get another 4 fighters there / round. There is no way that Germany can devote another 32 attack points/round of additional forces there while trading off units in Scandinavia, the Balkans, and the Caucuses.
Hence his only choices for victory is a G9 desperation assault or a long-game economic win. In such a case the fastest way to gain income would be recapturing Scandinavia, capturing and holding Caucuses, and conquering China. The trifecta is likely required if he wants to make progress in unit value.
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Germany’s odds on G9 if they go all in are 39%. The Italians get 2-3 hits on average in a suicidal attack, and that only pushes the odds to 50% or a little better. I don’t think that is worth the risk. A loss is game ending, and in the event of a win, the effort opens up the rest of Europe to the Allies. But still, we should have been considering the possibility of the Italians going in first.
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Think I did. Silently. A reason to access so much air.
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Italy 7: Is my capitol safe? Yes. The US has a 6 infantry, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 bomber attack plus a cruiser bombard followed by a UK 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 armor, 7 fighters and 1 tactical bomber attack plus a 3 cruiser and battleship bombard. Luckily UK has a lot of planes but not a lot of ground troops and US has a lot of ground troops but not a lot of planes. So realistically Italy has enough to hold already since I doubt the Allies would squander their Allied air force just to take out Rome. Even with no reinforcements and an all-out US sacrifice the Allies have about a 60% chance of taking it. Why do that when Italy is already out of the game? So, I can use my two planes elsewhere if I want and still be safe with a new build. The main problem is anything in Northern Italy is dead so can only build 3 units. That will not be a problem next Turn since Italy is going to be broke anyway so may save some money.
So, what to do? The Italian fleet is dead therefore do I attack SZ92 to get the most bang for my buck? 31% chance but I lose both planes and on average kill 5 units. That means most likely, SS, 2 DD, CA, CV with both fighters and both transports surviving. But without that I probably kill just a couple of subs when he attacks me. So, is it worth a fighter and a bomber to on average kill $50 instead of $12 with the hope of the lucky 30% winner take all? Maybe…
Greece is the only other target. A mere 13% chance there and most likely I am not even killing a plane. Since Germany has no ground troops nearby even a strafe is useless especially since the French are going to land 2 infantry there after the Italian attack. And with no Italians there the Allies will break out. Nope – not Greece.
So SZ92 or nothing. If I do nothing can I hold Bulgaria? Probably. US has no real attack and the UK attack is again mostly planes. So, if I hold Bulgaria then that minimizes the southern threat. That is good but then I lose the Italian fleet on the cheap. So, the comparison is try and kill a few more ships on the sea that I have already lost or try and protect land that I still own. Protecting land seems the better way to go. Bye-bye Italian Navy.
In Northern Africa make sure the Allies do not clear off the Italian ground troops so Russia can claim Tobruk and Libya. Already Russia is getting too much money from Africa. Italy did not do their job this game. Got too cocky early on with all that money and did not protect its territories the way it should have. Costing the Axis now. Bad, bad Italy.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 8 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Bulgaria 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya 1 battleship and 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 2 fighters placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,6,4,4,3,4,6,5,4,5,3,2,6,6,4,1,4,6,6,2 Italians collect 8 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits ANZAC win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to South Australia 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Place Units - ANZAC 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to 79 Sea Zone Combat - French Battle in 79 Sea Zone French attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 79 Sea Zone French win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from 79 Sea Zone to Persia 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
ANZAC : -0,33 -
The suggested turn from Franz.
No dice rolled except the sub-bug, so carried out all of it. Will hold a few days before finalizing in order to welcome comments.
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@trulpenplay Do you want to take some of those ANZAC fighters off of the US carrier? At some point you might want the additional offensive power of having the USA fighters.
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Also, do you want to grab Celebes this round? It seems worth it to exchange equal value of ANZAC and Japan.
Perhaps a few ANZAC fighters in Queensland can be used to take out Japanese destroyer which is used to kill your sub.
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They are quite nice to have there. Means the aussie figs have a reach of up to 7 moves. Easier to take fortified islands, killing off stray trannies etc.
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My only suggestion would be to change the buy to include a transport for ANZAC. Maybe 2 SS + tran or tran+inf+ftr. It keeps pressure on J to defend DEI plus whatever else the Caroline group wants to attack.
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Think I’ll change the purchase and include a tr.
Might actually be a good idea to take Celebes.
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Except that it isn’t reachable. The tr was moving out from z62.
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits ANZAC win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to South Australia 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Place Units - ANZAC 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to 79 Sea Zone Combat - French Battle in 79 Sea Zone French attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 79 Sea Zone French win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - French 1 fighter moved from 79 Sea Zone to Persia 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece Turn Complete - French Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 62 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 62 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Changing PUs for ANZAC from 15 to 16 EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from South Australia: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Queensland: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from New South Wales: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Queensland: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:
@trulpenplay Do you want to take some of those ANZAC fighters off of the US carrier? At some point you might want the additional offensive power of having the USA fighters.
A bit later I might cut it down to 2 aussie figs only.
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Consider the turn finalized.
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