Mainah (X) vs Wiz (L + 17) BM3

[mainah]

@wizmark
No - you can not have the MARTI results in SZ 98. I know what your thinking. stop.

You would have submerged, not scrambled, knowing you can take it out without risking any planes on your UK turn.

Freaking ridiculous. It’s even more ridiculous because we never would have seen it if it weren’t for the glitch.

Absolutely painful to watch
:grimacing: :angry: :face_palm:

[mainah]

@wizmark
Unless you would actually have scrambled. Then I’m sorry, and we can re do the battle.

But it still hurt to watch that . . . .

[wizmark]

@mainah no thats fine…quite happy to kill the italians next turn lol…and at least you got the bad rolls out of the way on a null battle!

[wizmark]

TripleA Move Summary: ANZAC round 6

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

Savegame

[wizmark]

TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
            ANZAC attack with 1 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan
            Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
        1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 54 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 35 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in Queensland

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.67
ANZAC regular : 0.83

Savegame

[wizmark]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Trans-Jordan
            ANZAC attack with 1 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan
            Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland
        1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 54 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 35 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in Queensland

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.67
ANZAC regular : 0.83

Savegame

[wizmark]

@mainah so close and so far with the anzac suicicde charge! :angry:

[mainah]

@wizmark
That’s all i wanted. I turn reprieve of an british amphib assault.

[mainah]

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Archangel

Savegame

[mainah]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Archangel

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Archangel
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Archangel, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
            Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
            Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 bombers moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
        1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Romania
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland

    Place Units - Germans
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
        Germans undo move 1.
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Novgorod
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 2.
        2 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        Germans undo move 3.
        1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
        Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.67
Germans regular : 0.50

Savegame

[mainah]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Belarus
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Archangel

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Archangel
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Archangel, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
            Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
            Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 bombers moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
        1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Romania
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Archangel
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland

    Place Units - Germans
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
        Germans undo move 1.
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Novgorod
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 2.
        2 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        Germans undo move 3.
        1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
        Germans collect 48 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.67
Germans regular : 0.50

Savegame

[mainah]

Edit was for my sub in SZ 125

[wizmark]

TripleA Move Summary: Russians round 7

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Belarus

Savegame

[mainah]

@wizmark When the russians by mostly tanks, bad things happen to germans.
I remember this from an Aesop fable I read in kindergarten.

[wizmark]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Belarus

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Belarus
            Russians attack with 5 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 5 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
            Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
        3 aaGuns, 8 artilleries and 45 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
        5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov

    Place Units - Russians
        5 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.33
Russians regular : 1.33

Savegame

[wizmark]

@mainah just giving you something to worry about! :wink:

I could possibly have held on in bryansk 1 more turn…but you had a potential 50/50 on moscow if the can open with italy went well, and a 50/50 ish in bry if you went allout attack…unlikely but not worth the risk. So a fall back and reinforce seemed the best option…still got a fair amount of cash with the russians…potential 6 armour build next turn!! :smile:

[wizmark]

@mainah but you are doing mostly the right thing with germany in this game…mech and bomber builds ae very strong…you still have an atlantic presence and shoring up italy is a solid play.

The only thing I would say is that you havent been aggressive enough against russia…to still be pulling in 36ipcs in R7 is very good for the allies. The key to a fast advance to moscow is that italian can opener…those mech units in the balkans would be far more effective rampaging through russia…an allied landing in greece can be a pain but the logistics of reinforcing a landing are tricky and the germans can bring a lot of air and mechs v quickly to kick the allies out if you are worried about that…

Hope you dont mind me noting that!

[wizmark]

@mainah oh and very good block with the german dd! That saved you from the allied landings this turn! :+1:

[mainah]

@wizmark
Danka.
I have learned that I have not been aggressive enough. That stack is massive. Trying to rectify it in this game, and not making the same mistake in my other 2 as Axis.
I did think about sending the mechs last turn (or was it 2 turns ago, I’d have to look) but I think you are used to playing better players than I. I see a huge allied fleet in the med, with a factory in Egypt, and this turn Italy is going to net 0 or close to it in income. My reasoning was if there is a 1-2 punch in greece, it is an area that is hard for germany to reinforce. Italy can’t cover it without income, and if the US gets just 1 turn, a factory is built. and that would be game over.
I supose the best of both worlds would have been to start sending a few german inf with an art or 2 down there, to free up the italian mechs. But that was 2 turns ago. Lessoned learned.
Your analysis of the over all german position is much rosier than I see it. That gives me pause to really look at it from a different angle. With my lack of experience, I looked at that stack, after 2-3 turns growing, still not seeing a way around it, as such a huge delay, the fate of germany was sealed. You see 50/50 battle worth pulling back? I saw those numbers, at turn 7, and assumed by turn 9, the end would be clear. Regardless if that 50/50 played out. MARTI would have to be wooing my daughter to give me dice that would allow me to continue on to russia with minimal reinforcements while fending of US/UK alone.

[wizmark]

@mainah The big advantage germany has over russia is mobility…Russia has 1 army which at all times must cover moscow and which is limited to moving 1 square a turn…once germany gets a few fast movers around the north or south flank 2 squares away from the main russian stack then you have many routes to moscow… In our game for example you have a force in archangel…with the right can open you had a 80% chance of winning against a max 10 build in moscow…so I would have to send units back from bry to make sure it didnt happen…that would weaken the main stack…which would then be a touch too weak against an all out attack.
Even worse for russia is a strafe attack…if you do a 1 round attack in which we both lose say 20 men… you can replace it in 1 turn, it takes 2 for russia to do the same… I cant afford the casualties in a battle that isnt for moscow so the sensible route is to pull back which adds 20 or so units to my army…last rounds build and this rounds. It will now take you at least 2 turns if not 3 or 4 before you can hit moscow by which time i can hopefully get reinforcements and landings going…trading space for time!