@TheDude-0 Thanks for excellent reply. Noted and agreed on all points.
🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting
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@Imperious-Leader -shrug- if you want to say the game’s RNG is broken based on your sample size of 1 player’s data you’re not going to be convinced otherwise, so I won’t say any more on this topic, although if you’d like to start a separate thread with me where we play some games against each other so we can compare our rolling I’m happy to do that.
I’ve had plenty of swings on the dice, in the last 24 hours I had a game where I won the Ukraine attack as Russia with no losses at all and another where I lost a naval battle as the Japanese with 99% favorable odds (given that this was a giant attack with 15+ units). All of this is stuff that could easily happen in a real game. In the naval battle I could have retreated after the first turn when I saw nearly every unit missed but I went again thinking ‘well, I can’t whiff so badly twice in a row’ which of course is not how probability works and naturally I whiffed twice.
Separately, I was having a hard time too with the Transports but the customer service gave some pretty good instructions on how to deal with it, so it isn’t hard to get the units off the islands if you have the Transport pick up the unit rather than have the unit board the transport. I think I’ve seen elsewhere that some players complain about that system as it’s a bit slower than TripleA’s method, but at least it works reliably.
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But its not. Many people are complaining about the roller. Hence the existence of this thread. Just play a few more games and come back. Also, my transport example is only ARTILLERY FROM PHILIPPINES. Not anything from anywhere.
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I KNOW RIGHT!?!?!? Sometimes it seems so broken almost to the point I can predict when its going to screw me. I wish there was some way to make sure the program is 100% random.
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Oddly, I’m having the opposite experience now … dice that resemble real life. Sure there’s the crazy good or bad roll here and there but again, for me, it’s starting to feel like a real game. Maybe next week, I’ll think differently.
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I’ve only been playing a few months but one of the first things I noticed was the wild dice outcomes.Been gaming over 30yrs and never seen anything like this on such a consistant basis.You may flip a coin 1,000 times and have it come up heads and the next it still comes up heads but the people betting against you will probably break your hands!Reference classic movie ‘The Hustler’.
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@BillyMack57 problem with this is the hands are getting cut off too late… going from 1,000 to 1,001 tails is unremarkable :).
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I just want to be able to let people know the only reason they won is because I got diced. I’m in this game right now that I’ll probably have to abandon because the dice are terrible.
Dave Jensen, Founder of Axis & Allies .org
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@djensen Hilarious!
Can we see a picture?
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@Imperious-Leader said in 🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting:
@djensen Hilarious!
Can we see a picture?
No, it’s embarrassing. :wink:
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@djensen said in 🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting:
I just want to be able to let people know the only reason they won is because I got diced. I’m in this game right now that I’ll probably have to abandon because the dice are terrible.
Yeah, it’s annoying that you can’t see the final state of the board when the game ends, or you might be able to figure it out when things like that happen. I just abandoned a game where I failed to take Ukraine R1 (although to be fair, that battle is hardly a 100% lock) and I always wonder what the opponent thinks when the game just ends before they even get a turn.
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I added some updates to the first post of the conversation. Please take a look.
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BTW how many games in total have you played?
How do you print parts of the game screen?
I need to learn that and some sticky needs to have a basic training on posting whatever…a primer of sorts
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Just got beat up by the dice big time and repeatedly. 6 fighters hitting 5 time 3 rolls in a row. It’s just not fun. I know part of the issue is playing more games, I’m going to see more outcomes and a bunch of those are going to be displeasing. But regardless of the randomness, one big battle with really bad rolls makes me want to quit all my games so …
I’ve quit all my current games and not playing for a while.
Dave Jensen, Founder of Axis & Allies .org
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Oh dont do that. I had a recent sea battle sending 4 fighters, 1 bomber and 2 subs against 2 destroyers, 1 battleship, 1 sub and all my units whiffed and he hit 3 times ( sub submerged). Second round i whiffed and he hit again 3 times. Since i knew it was BS because of the dice algorithm, i expected results like that.
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@djensen The game is unplayable
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@Brian-Cannon said in 🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting:
@djensen The game is unplayable
Personally, I wouldn’t take it that far. There is a lot that is wonderful about 1942 Online. But for whatever reason I get dice fatigue faster on this platform.
My dice fatigue rankings:
- 1942 Online
- TripleA
- Tournament games at GenCon
- Practice for tournament games
I think that 1942 Online being the top is a backhanded compliment. From one perspective, it works so well that it’s easy to play a lot and quickly burn out.
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@djensen said in 🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting:
I’ve quit all my current games and not playing for a while.
Which does not mean I’ve quit completely. I’ll be back. I just want to play some other games for a while; preferably without dice. Well, maybe Catan but I do get some dice fatigue on that one too.
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@Imperious-Leader said in 🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting:
Since i knew it was BS because of the dice algorithm
I’m still not convinced there is something wrong with the algorithm. There’s certainly the anecdotal perception of something wrong.
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I don’t have “dice fatigue” and my constant bickering about 42 online dice DO HAVE A VALID COMPONENT to the types of results of which i have never seen in any other game that requires dice. There is a “tit for tat” response in the kinds of results in battles. I just live with it if i want to continue to enjoy 1942. I think 42.2 is the best AA game around unless you want a long game ( 1940).
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@Imperious-Leader said in 🎲😢 PRNG dice support group — and ranting:
which i have never seen in any other game that requires dice
I understand but it’s still anecdotal unless you start recording hundreds of thousands of dice rolls in ll of your games; not just the bad ones.
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