Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 infantry, 1 marine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Gilbert Islands 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Formosa to 132 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Japan to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from French 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 fighter moved from Korea to Shansi 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi Japanese take Kiangsi from Chinese Combat - Japanese Battle in Wake Island Battle in Gilbert Islands Battle in Shansi Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Wake Island from Americans, taking Gilbert Islands from UK_Pacific, taking Shansi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 27 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport Japanese win, taking 27 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour 1 fighter owned by the Japanese retreated UK_Pacific win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Battle in 36 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 3 transports Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese Japanese win with 2 battleships, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Davao Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Davao from Americans with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry Battle in 132 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter British defend with 1 battleship Japanese win with 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam 1 fighter moved from 132 Sea Zone to Siam 2 bombers moved from 132 Sea Zone to Siam 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 fighter moved from Shansi to Jehol 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shansi to Shantung 3 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 aaGun moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Formosa 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 artillery moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 2 carriers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau Place Units - Japanese 1 infantry and 1 marine placed in Japan 3 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone Japanese undo move 2. 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUsL20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3
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I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
te some allied strategies, improve them , and if i can put a good resistance to top players, i ll continue playing this game, if not i ll take a break and wait for the bids to grow
i need to check some of the top players games, and implement something from their top moves into my play
That’s a very good strategy for improvement. Well worth the time invested.
I checked out A-D vs JDOW A-semi. Perhaps 10 min. Learned a lot! Also when looking at A-D’s play against you gave me some worthy revelations. Maybe 5 min used there. Extremely efficient way to improve.
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i ve lost only one game with axis ,and that was against adam. and he is n1 without contest in this league, so its not a measure
axis have 2:1 rating in this league season, all though the allies have a bid of 10-20, now going to 20+
and karl and some other exp dudes are just writing what i ve been writing all along
the axis are overpowered
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
yes, ur improved axis showed germany can be efficient in the east and still defend europe with bunch of carriers
even AD mentioned u in some thread xd
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
i am slightly loosing motivation to play a and a
the axis are owerpowered, and nobody will give me 40 or 50 bid with alllies
i like allies, dont like to play much with axis, but if i want to keep winning i need to play the axis
and that sucks from my point of view
The great part of your opening strategy is that it’s very unconventional and fresh, but, like I stated before, it’s not very solid against prime opposition.
My suggestion is that you keep it for special occasions and go on a more traditional route as main weapon. Perhaps less fun in a way, but you’ll get quite a higher chance of kicking butt with Allies with say a 20-bid. Like in our game. Despite 19 for Allies, which I consider a big bid, J managed to control the situation around Yunnan, which was key in this game.
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yes ,i ll definitely try one game with a russia that doesnt go heavily against japan rd1
it will be fun for me since i dont play that way
i ve learned someting though
farmboy and adam use the 20 units amur stack to attack korea and manchuria even without usa going in there first. and they are top class players so
definitely worth a thinking , to find other ways to pressure japan
also my midway strategy is good but i musnt be focused on midway only, but also going south to australia or something
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
yes, ur improved axis showed germany can be efficient in the east and still defend europe with bunch of carriers
even AD mentioned u in some thread xd
Before Germany can start to defend the west front, primarily through fleet, they need to get their income pushed up by making progress in Russia. Without that success, the west front will inevitable fail as well.
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
I think your special opening of contesting Yunnan and pushing lots of russian force east would be pretty stable with that huge a bid.
yes, ur improved axis showed germany can be efficient in the east and still defend europe with bunch of carriers
even AD mentioned u in some thread xd
Before Germany can start to defend the west front, primarily through fleet, they need to get their income pushed up by making progress in Russia. Without that success, the west front will inevitable fail as well.
interesting thought
i have some new ideas for allies, that i will try to implement in my future games
unfortunately i can not play against u anymore, since we ve played 5 games already, and i dont have 20 games finished
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i am also open to tech since it brings more fun into the game
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
farmboy and adam use the 20 units amur stack to attack korea and manchuria even without usa going in there first. and they are top class players so
Might be good, but I’m not sure. It doesn’t pose too big of a problem for J, while it makes J pretty happy that they don’t have to DOW on Russia.
Still, when the big guns do that move, it really can’t be bad. :)
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yeah, i like some of my allied moves, especially destroying and convoying italy,
but as ksmkcay said well , i should focus more on germany with uk and usa , and not italy , if i go heavily to yunan
he praised my strategy but said i need to send less units there
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adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92 -
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
i am also open to tech since it brings more fun into the game
I’ll try and present a fun system for tech. Not sure when that will happen and would also need a bit of impementation from the developers.
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but i have to be realistic, i was tier 1 last time, few years ago, i came back and now i am tier E, and i have a lot of places to improve my (game)play so i am not discontent, just i need to take a little break, and more medidating strategies and take fewer games, to be able to put my performances on a greater scale.
i play tier M and E guys only lately, so i have to do my best to put a better resistance
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92Like I said, it’s one of the classic opening moves, abstaining Taranto, but stacking fleet in z92. It’s strong.
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
i am also open to tech since it brings more fun into the game
I’ll try and present a fun system for tech. Not sure when that will happen and would also need a bit of impementation from the developers.
it would be great we have it in bm4
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@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92Like I said, it’s one of the classic opening moves, abstaining Taranto, but stacking fleet in z92. It’s strong.
u think that early sea lion is a trap, ksmkcay thinks going for taranto is a trap
interesting thoughts
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@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:
adam and farmboy have this great move with uk on rd 1
gibraltar AB , and stacking sz 92Like I said, it’s one of the classic opening moves, abstaining Taranto, but stacking fleet in z92. It’s strong.
u think that early sea lion is a trap, ksmkcay thinks going for taranto is a trap
interesting thoughts
Hehe, I think Taranto is strong as well.
Early Sea Lion is definitely crap. Trap-crap. :grin:
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i am keen to bm3, and i would like to see some improvements in bm4
as for PTV, i would rather wait to see in which direction it will go, and i have an impresion that PTV games will last much longer then BM do.
maybe i am wrong, but thats my first impression.
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Weren’t we going to play a game with me as Allies where you are committed to an early Sea Lion? :)
The bad thing there though is that I would know about it, but I can promise that I can play my usual style and not reinforce London extra, but rather invite the blow.
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