League General Discussion Thread

[gamerman01]

Thanks a lot guys, love the feedback.

The big reason I don’t want to split off in 2020 is because players switching to PTV will then not have their efforts go toward qualifying for the playoffs. And what trulpen said.

[gamerman01]

But it depends on the level of popularity and support which we won’t know for a little while. So I’ll track PTV wins and losses from now on so that we could always split them off if there are dozens of games and practically everybody wants that.

[WindowWasher]

I don’t believe that separating them is a good idea. I just think that everybody should know how to play OOB/BM3 (theyre similar enough in my opinion) and have PtV as another option if both players want to do that.

[gamerman01]

Great point washer, PTV will only be split off if there are a lot of players, and most of them are playing it exclusively

[dawgoneit]

i’m not 100% sure but i think you can just put 1 piece per spot. is this true?

[dawgoneit]

@dawgoneit said in League General Discussion Thread:

i’m not 100% sure but i think you can just put 1 piece per spot. is this true?

for bids.

[trulpen]

@dawgoneit said in League General Discussion Thread:

@dawgoneit said in League General Discussion Thread:

i’m not 100% sure but i think you can just put 1 piece per spot. is this true?

for bids.

That’s the default, but if in mutual agreement you may deviate from this rule.

[Karl7]

Anyone know how to roll on the forum?

I know it’s changed from the old system right?

[ksmckay]

[dice 1d6 2d6 3d6 4d6 5d6]

[dicebot]

1d6: 2
2d6: 3, 1
3d6: 5, 6, 3
4d6: 4, 1, 4, 5
5d6: 1, 2, 1, 5, 5

[Karl7]

dice 1d6

[Karl7]

@Karl7

[dice 1d6]

[dicebot]

1d6: 2

[Karl7]

Got it, thanks!

[WindowWasher]

@gamerman01, when rankings are adjusted after a game, does the winner’s rank change first or does the looser’s. Since the rankings depend on the current rank of your past opponents it could change some things.

[WindowWasher]

i also could have no idea what im talking about its 1am

[trulpen]

@WindowWasher said in League General Discussion Thread:

@gamerman01, when rankings are adjusted after a game, does the winner’s rank change first or does the looser’s. Since the rankings depend on the current rank of your past opponents it could change some things.

Doesn’t matter. Points are adjusted automatically, and the small PPG-change will never be big enough to pose a problem.

[gamerman01]

You’re right, it could make a difference, but either way after I record the result all players’ point totals will correctly reflect all their past opponents’ current rankings. In other words, you can always recalculate any given player’s point total.

I constructed an illustration to show your point. If ksmckay had one more point (62 rather than 61), then a loss to an M would keep him as tier M but a loss to an E would drag him down to E. Axis-dominion has 102 points, and if he beats a tier M he would rise to M, but if he defeats an E he will still be E.

So what if Axis-Dominion beat ksmckay and ksmckay had 62 points rather than 61? If I record the winner result first, then both will end up with 5.5 PPG and bottom of tier M. If I record the loser result first, then ksmckay ends with 5.42 and Axis-dominion ends with 5.45. Axis-dominion is ranked slightly higher than ksmckay and both are tier E instead of M. However, either way, you can recalculate all players’ scores by adding up their points from wins and losses against all their past opponents and verify their total is accurate. This is the most important feature of the current ranking system, and whether I happen to calculate the winner or loser first does not affect this.

I suppose it’s possible that even the top 8 at the end of the season could possibly be affected by this, but it seems like the anomaly would be quite rare, and the PPG difference rather small. I’m not sure there would be any benefit from using a consistent methodology where I always calculate the winner first or the loser first. And I believe this very narrow situation would only occur when both players would simultaneously be in a different tier as a result of a single point up or down to both. But it is possible, as I illustrated above, although I had to add a point to ksmckay to make it happen. In other words, as it stands now, if Axis-dominion, through some miracle (I kid, I kid) beats ksmckay, Axis would be tier M and ksmckay would be tier E and have the same PPG whether I processed the winner first or the loser first.

So you get credit for finding a narrow mathematical wart in the current ranking system. Now go use those formidable analytical skills against A&A opponents and rack up some wins, instead of harassing your moderator :grin:

I’m just kidding, I enjoyed the exercise.

[LennardF]

TripleA asked me if I wanted to upgrade a day or two ago - has anybody upgraded in the past couple of days and confirmed that older games in progress are not affected?

[farmboy]

@LennardF I believe older games are affected, but you can save the new one to a different folder and so are able to use both.