Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

[trulpen]

I’ll make an alternative setup for Russia. I’m starting to think that this is our best bet to avoid Crushia. Invest some to put pressure on and destroy the northern contingent, thereby gaining income for Russia and denying Germany income from both Leningrad (although not likely to hold, but then G all of a sudden has to focus valuable resources north instead of east) and hopefully also Norway. That’s a 23 IPC-swing (11 for G, 12 for R).

G can’t start to build a shitload of fleet, so I’d say that Norway is lost for them. One way or another.

[farmboy]

Also Japan might mess with the ability of the UK to support Moscow from Persia

[trulpen]

If we lose one inf in Karelia, we need 5 figs in there. If we don’t, 4 will suffice. I’d say it’s worth it. Germany denies us our precious NO anyway, so that’s not a bother.

[trulpen]

With 3 extra mechs on the attack, G has to land extra air in there for Finland not to be crushed. They’ll be a little displaced, but not so much since G wants to pressure R anyway.

[trulpen]

Not sure the mechs are worth it. Maybe just go with 13 inf instead, but build 3 of them in Leningrad?

[trulpen]

On the other hand, all air (except bombers) that stay in Finland, won’t be able to pressure Bryansk. Perhaps 1 inf is a small price for that benefit?

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 3

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States
              Russians take Baltic States from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
        2 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
        1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 126 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Iraq
              Russians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[trulpen]

This is the alternative take. More aggressive. Me like.

We only have a few hours left to decide. Be here or be square.

[trulpen]

The fig could of course take part in the attack of either Vyborg or Karelia, but I find both those battles secure enough and like that the sub still convoy disrupts G.

[farmboy]

@trulpen @trulpen I would probably go with inf (and not in Leningrad). I think Moscow will still be a near thing and you may lose much of the defensive advantage you gain by bringing the air if you do that. You may not be able to grab Finland after but he does get put out of position and you are in better shape to take Norway after with the allies on subsequent turns.

[farmboy]

by if you do that, I mean building the mechs and placing them in Leningrad

[trulpen]

I agree. I like though that the mechs are very flexible. They may just pop down to Bryansk instead, if that’s suitable. Putting pressure and able to defend as well. Terrific unit!

[trulpen]

@farmboy said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

@trulpen @trulpen I would probably go with inf (and not in Leningrad). I think Moscow will still be a near thing and you may lose much of the defensive advantage you gain by bringing the air if you do that. You may not be able to grab Finland after but he does get put out of position and you are in better shape to take Norway after with the allies on subsequent turns.

Wouldn’t you agree that the air left to defend Finland will take much bite out of the pressure on Bryansk and subsequently Moscow?

A lot is gained if Russia is able to make a stand in Bryansk instead of immediately huddling in Moscow.

[farmboy]

@trulpen true. I was forgetting that he would have to go south and can’t stack Belarus

[trulpen]

The big question is though: Is it even possible?

[trulpen]

@trulpen said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

The big question is though: Is it even possible?

I hereby assign this task to you, @farmboy, honorary chief assistant, to find out the situation in Bryansk by G5 with this strategy in mind. :)

[farmboy]

@trulpen :) unfortunately, I’m about to start work but otherwise I would. Sorry!

[trulpen]

It’s ok, mr dishounoured honorary chief assistant.

I’ll try and do it myself later.

[farmboy]

@trulpen I did a quick look. Bryansk wouldn’t be close even with significant allied air support. All the land units he has to take Moscow on G6 are in range + most of the air. And you are about 20 inf shy of what you would have in Moscow on G6. But you can still build hte mechs. Because he doesn’t have a safe northern route you can retreat to Vologda.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

Wow, that is an aggressive turn after being so cautious up to this point.

1. don’t waste 22 PUs killing one soldier in Karelia. At most attack it with 1 inf
2. don’t waste that soldier in Vyborg
3. don’t waste that soldier in Baltic States. Not a good exchange for 1 PU

For the purchase, perhaps consider 1 more fighter. They defend slightly worse than 3 inf, but I find that you can get good return on the investment by hindering bombing and helping in small skirmishes in areas around Moscow.