@simon33 Sorry. Travelling. Will continue on Sunday or Monday.
Re Nornandy. Yes, sorry, I wanted to write a note (that you edit it) with a savegame but forgot.
AldoRaine (Allies +6) vs AKreider2 BM3
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You got lucky on India. You had a 50% chance of winning that battle (and getting stuck in Burma) - though maybe the odds were better by the end of the second round?
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So it was down to 27%-28% of winning when you would of made the decision to stay for round 3 - did you test it out?
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I was seeing a 99% chance of victory. I got really lucky in the last round but i definitely had strong odds. As far as getting stuck in Burma it would not have been ideal but it was either attack or lose India.
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Here is what i saw for the battle. -
You had 99% chance of winning, and a good expected TUV, but if you won the battle you would have lost India (at least according to my simulations - unless I made a mistake - and I accounted for factors like the US airbase that you built) with a good expected TUV for me (or at least one worth doing and the reason why I stacked in Burma instead of waiting 1-2 rounds to build up).
I thought you might retreat to W. India. On the other hand that wasn’t a great choice. Now I have to figure out whether to go for India or not…
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There isn’t any way to use battle simulator to easily pull units from two different territories and have them fight, is there?
Eg. you can click on one territory, but then have to manually add the invaders if they are in a different territory.
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@akreider2 not that I know of. I know you can select the number of rounds for the battle and it will give you a TUV.
For India it was trying to make the best of a bad situation and got really lucky. I fully expected to be trapped in Burma and basically giving India 1 more turn. Might be for nothing but we will see.
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Italians are thinking of doing something either very brave or very stupid. Or both =)
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Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.9, time: 8:54:35 PM
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Sorry misread your question about the battle calc. No I wish there was what you mentioned…
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For Russia, I took the default AA gun casualty. If you want to change it you can do so in Edit Mode.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Libya to Egypt 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Strategic bombing raid in Egypt AA fire in Egypt : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Egypt rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in Egypt causes 5 damage total. Battle in Cyprus Battle in Tobruk Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Tobruk Italians win, taking Cyprus from British, taking Tobruk from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 98 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 submarine Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone Italians win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in Russia Italians attack with 1 armour Russians defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Russia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 aaGuns, 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 24/68 hits, 24.17 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Russia Russians win with 3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Greece 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France Place Units - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians : -0.17 British : -0.50 AA fire in Egypt : : -0.17 Russians : -0.17 -
TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from South Australia to 61 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - ANZAC ANZAC creates battle in territory 17 Sea Zone ANZAC creates battle in territory 6 Sea Zone Battle in Java Battle in Sumatra Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to Wake Island 1 cruiser moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 infantry placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 18 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 25 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: ANZAC round 5
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from South Australia to 61 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - ANZAC ANZAC creates battle in territory 17 Sea Zone ANZAC creates battle in territory 6 Sea Zone Battle in Java Battle in Sumatra Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to Wake Island 1 cruiser moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 infantry placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 18 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 25 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Wake Island: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Guam: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from South Australia to 61 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra Combat - ANZAC ANZAC creates battle in territory 17 Sea Zone ANZAC creates battle in territory 6 Sea Zone Battle in Java Battle in Sumatra Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to Wake Island 1 cruiser moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 infantry placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 18 PUs; end with 22 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 25 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Wake Island: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Guam: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya French take Libya from Italians Combat - French Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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I’m re-enacting my combat move for Germany, and despite having 45% odds on winning the Russia attack, I’ve lost 8 times in a row so far (0.8% odds of this happening). Finally won on my 9th try. I’m not superstitious. Just a bit concerned about how random the Triple A local dice is. Is the local dice function different software from using the dice server?
I think I’m losing the game in general (maybe 10% odds of winning), so I’m quite happy to get 45% odds on taking Russia as that will put me in a much better position.
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Round 1 went slightly bad. Down to 29% of winning, but going to continue attacking. Probably will stop if I get to 5%-10% odds.
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Round 2 went very badly, down to 1% odds of winning, retreating to Bryansk.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 armour, 12 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 1 bomber moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 5 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 10 armour, 8 artilleries, 26 infantry and 25 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia Combat - Germans Battle in Crete Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 aaGun and 3 infantry; Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry AA fire in Normandy Bordeaux : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the British and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Crete from Neutral_Allies, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium Germans roll dice for 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 5 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Russia Germans attack with 10 armour, 8 artilleries, 3 bombers, 2 fighters, 26 infantry and 26 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber AA fire in Russia : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 8 artilleries, 3 bombers, 1 fighter, 26 infantry and 26 mech_infantrys in Russia, round 2 : 17/74 hits, 20.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 22/68 hits, 24.17 expected hits 14 infantry owned by the Russians, 22 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 8 artilleries, 3 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 26 mech_infantrys in Russia, round 3 : 13/52 hits, 16.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 3 fighters, 21 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 : 22/54 hits, 19.50 expected hits 13 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 18 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Russia 8 artilleries owned by the Germans, 10 armour owned by the Germans and 8 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans retreated to Bryansk Russians win with 2 armour, 22 artilleries, 3 fighters, 8 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -64 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter, 26 infantry and 18 mech_infantrys Casualties for Russians: 3 aaGuns and 27 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 3 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 8 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 3 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Belarus 4 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Western Ukraine 9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Eastern Poland 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Eastern Poland 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Eastern Poland 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bryansk 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk Place Units - Germans 10 infantry placed in Western Germany 2 infantry placed in France 3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine 3 armour placed in Novgorod Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : -2.50 AA fire in Russia : : 0.17 Americans : -2.67 AA fire in Normandy Bordeaux : : 0.67 Russians : -0.00 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel Russians take Archangel from Germans 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Combat - Russians Battle in 99 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in Smolensk Russians attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 5 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 3 : 1/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Smolensk, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 4 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Russia 12 infantry moved from Samara to Russia 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia 5 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia 5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Samara Place Units - Russians 1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 32 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 34 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 0.67 Russians : -2.00
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