• you decribed my friends to but not really me. I’m going to by 14 in a week I love ww2.

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    @testguy:

    you decribed my friends to but not really me. I’m going to by 14 in a week I love ww2.

    LOL! Jen’s point proven… We’re glad buddy. Congrats on the Birthday…

    GG

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    The hilarious part is I am now taking a course in American Adolescence.

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    thought you “graduated”? :)

    GG

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Guerrilla:

    thought you “graduated”? :)

    GG

    I’ve graduated a lot.

    1996: Associate of Arts; Associate of Science
    1998: Bachelor of Science: Computer Science
    2002: MBA
    2004: Bachelor of Arts: Education with History Emphasis
    2010: Scheduled: Masters of Mathematics

    And, if all goes well, in 2012, just before the end of the world (According to the Mayan calendar) I should have my doctorate in mathematics.

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    Wow! Impressive resume! I was referring to you graduating from American “Adolescence”. Or in your case Russian Adolescence… I believe they would be similiar in time not necessarily in action.

    GG


  • @Guerrilla:

    @testguy:

    you decribed my friends to but not really me. I’m going to by 14 in a week I love ww2.

    LOL! Jen’s point proven… We’re glad buddy. Congrats on the Birthday…

    GG

    Whats that mean!

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    You wrote a statement that wasn’t really coherent. It wasn’t put together well…

    It’s OK, I won’t bash ya for it. Just don’t stay there…

    GG


  • A teen is ANYBODY at any age that still needs financial support for any reason sake medical conditions. So If your a isolated person at 30 and collect money from the Gov., ex spouse, Momma,Grandma, Sugar daddy and sugar momma, Pimp, your back to thug kid level. Physically your an adult, but mentally your still a child. Also, if you do things like buy toys ( ATV, Boats, Jet SKI, etc) and cant pay the rent your also still a child.

    Case in point: living at home with momma and you got some stupid SUV with bling bling rims that spin, and the DWP has to keep sending late payment statements because you cant pay the damm bill when it shows up, because you cant make BOTH payments on your custom stereo and phone AND take care of basic bills that show up. But you still look good at the club, but your a penniless, dumb teenager in my book. :mrgreen:

    PS: this characterization is not directed against anybody who posts here.


  • Adolescence: A stage between infancy and adultery.  ~Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary, 1911


  • @Imperious:

    A teen is ANYBODY at any age that still needs financial support for any reason sake medical conditions. So If your a isolated person at 30 and collect money from the Gov., ex spouse, Momma,Grandma, Sugar daddy and sugar momma, Pimp, your back to thug kid level. Physically your an adult, but mentally your still a child. Also, if you do things like buy toys ( ATV, Boats, Jet SKI, etc) and cant pay the rent your also still a child.

    Case in point: living at home with momma and you got some stupid SUV with bling bling rims that spin, and the DWP has to keep sending late payment statements because you cant pay the damm bill when it shows up, because you cant make BOTH payments on your custom stereo and phone AND take care of basic bills that show up. But you still look good at the club, but your a penniless, dumb teenager in my book. :mrgreen:

    PS: this characterization is not directed against anybody who posts here.

    By this definition, everyone I know short of my grand mother is a child
    :-D

    100th POST!!!  :mrgreen:


  • LOL!

    :-D

    I call them “insulated lives”

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    By that Definition Imp any college student is honestly a teenager since most have there parents pay for college. I am a dichotomy since I am paying my own way through college and as of right now I am still living at home and going to JC.

    I guess though I have to agree with you to a certain point though, being on your own is the goal, it kind of makes sense as a determining milestone.

    GG

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Adolescence is defined by Santrock in “Adolescence” twelfth edition as a person between the ages of 8 and 24.  Honestly, I usually thought of them as 12-20 myself.


  • Yes that would be true, but then again i never said Teenagers were bad…just that they have not separated the economic umbilical coil of their own parents. You cant be a full adult if your decisions are even partially paid by others. IN either case nothing is wrong…its just that to me at least an adult must be able to make his own way and use outside financial help as ‘crutches’.

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    I understand what you mean… I like it too. It’s a good way to put it, and something that keeps me motivated to finish up my degree.

    Jen they probably skew that number every couple years. Our food is worse, therefore people gain weight at an earlier age which stimulates hormonal changes in girls much faster and in boys if I’m not mistaken.

    GG


  • @Cmdr:

    Adolescence is defined by Santrock in “Adolescence” twelfth edition as a person between the ages of 8 and 24.  Honestly, I usually thought of them as 12-20 myself.

    Funny…I had a kid as an adolescent by those standards.  :lol:

    @Guerrilla:

    Jen they probably skew that number every couple years. Our food is worse, therefore people gain weight at an earlier age which stimulates hormonal changes in girls much faster and in boys if I’m not mistaken.

    From what I understand, it’s not that the food is worse (in the sense of it being crappy food, but maybe you are arguing that it’s worse for being tampered with), it’s that hormones used to speed up development in animals is consumed by us through their meat, eggs, milk, etc., and then affects us in the same way, albeit at a lower rate of progress.  But you could still be right on the weight thing, I just thought you were talking about what I know from studies and such.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yea, I don’t know how they do it.  I betcha money that Biologists and Psychologists do not agree on what is and is not an adolescent homo-sapians.

    As for food, I thought it was better nutrition and greater abundance of food that made children grow taller and mature faster?

    Mainly, access to things like meat, fruits and vegetables year round instead of infrequently and scarcely for only portions of the year.

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    I’m referring to being overweight. In girls at least, weight is a big trigger to hormone release. And yes, I also mean tampered food in the sense of food that has preservatives, artificials, chemicals, etc.

    GG

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Guerrilla:

    I’m referring to being overweight. In girls at least, weight is a big trigger to hormone release. And yes, I also mean tampered food in the sense of food that has preservatives, artificials, chemicals, etc.

    GG

    There are a lot of chemicals in our food, I can agree there.

    As for “fat” girls in early Adolescence, if they lose their “fat” they generally develop smaller hips and breasts.  I am putting “fat” in quotations because what these girls consider as “fat” is really their bodies developing.  If the girl is really FAT, as in medically overweight/obese/morbidly obese, that’s a different story altogether.

    But I’ve always been told that the reason our children are maturing earlier and earlier (as in old farts thinking kids are maturing earlier when in reality the time difference between generations is not that significant, perhaps as much as a year or two or as little as only a few weeks) is because we have better access to food and medical care, because we get enough vitamins and minerals because we take a pill for them each day, because we have better oral hygiene, etc that our bodies are growing fast enough to achieve the level of growth needed to stimulate puberty to begin.

    Not so much because Aspartame is in their drinks. (I say their drinks because I have cut out all Carmel colored drinks except Tea, and yes, that includes coffee.  I also cut out all carbonated drinks (with the exception of Perrier) so I don’t drink Aspartame anymore.)  That’s been linked, by instructors and news reports I’ve read/heard, to increases in digestive track disorders, increased blood pressure, higher levels of sodium and thus by extension cholesterol in the body.

    As far as growth hormones, I think the jury’s still out on that one.  Honestly, I cut red meat from my diet this year and other than my BP dropping about 10/5 points and my cholesterol dropping a little bit, I have not noticed much of anything else.

    Anyway, yea, I use my own personal experience a lot and then stuff I remember from my parents, teachers and what I’ve read and yes, I know I didn’t link 30 dozen sources to support my claims, but then again, I’m not claiming a fact, just questioning the opinion you put forth.

    And yes, I know it’s only been 85 days since I began my new diet (which is severely limited sodas and sports drinks and near non-existent levels of red meat).

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