Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3

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1d6: 5
1d6: 3
3d6: 5, 6, 4
1d6: 2
7d6: 3, 3, 2, 1, 3, 1, 1
1d6: 1

[Amon-Sul]

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[Amon-Sul]

i scored 1 hit u 5

[Amon-Sul]

Non Combat Move - British
2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
2 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 artillery moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
1 battleship, 2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to French Indo China

    Place Units - British
        2 submarines placed in 98 Sea Zone
        1 submarine placed in 81 Sea Zone
        3 submarines placed in 80 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 aaGun and 3 mech_infantrys placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 1 aaGun and 3 mech_infantrys

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

[Amon-Sul]

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[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 artilleries moved from Tunisia to Algeria
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Algeria

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Algeria
            Italians attack with 2 artilleries and 1 bomber
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 bomber in Algeria, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Algeria
            Italians win, taking Algeria from Americans with 2 artilleries and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber moved from Algeria to Southern Italy
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
        2 aaGuns, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        2 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 18 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : 0.67
Americans : -0.33

Savegame

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 5

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 2 bombers and 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
              Germans take Smolensk from Russians
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        6 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        11 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        5 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        7 armour and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
        3 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Bryansk
            Germans attack with 10 armour, 12 artilleries, 25 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 10 armour, 12 artilleries, 25 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys in Bryansk, round 2 : 19/58 hits, 17.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
            Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 10 armour, 12 artilleries, 24 infantry and 11 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Germans attack with 11 armour, 2 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 5 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 11 armour, 2 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys in Rostov, round 2 : 8/22 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 5 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 aaGun owned by the Russians and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
            Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 11 armour and 7 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 5 infantry
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 104 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        3 aaGuns moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
        2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Western Germany
        1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to 127 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
        2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier placed in 110 Sea Zone
        2 bombers placed in Western Germany
        3 armour placed in Ukraine

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
        Germans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 56 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 4.00
British : 0.33
Russians : 3.00

Savegame

[Amon-Sul]

would u be playing a different german rd 2-3 buyings if i went heavily to atlantic with usa?

just a question regarding my future games strategy plan. cheers

[Amon-Sul]

even if did not send a single unit to china, u would still smashed moscow like nothing. i ve done the battle calc anaylsis

[ksmckay]

not if you evacuated Russia like you did, or at least g2 would have been the same. Though if you had gone heavy atlantic in this game and all other things the same, I would have just waited till J4 to DOW.

I think the pressure with Russia was interesting but not in the amount you did, especially with zero pullback. Having no air really screwed you. And then choosing not to retreat back to Russia on R4 at the latest was the killer.

But I would also never combine that with an emphasis on Italy. Italy is neutralized but there are less costly ways of doing that that dont neuter your ability to pressure germany. But in this game you applied zero pressure to germany and have no ability to apply pressure to germany.

[ksmckay]

@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

even if did not send a single unit to china, u would still smashed moscow like nothing. i ve done the battle calc anaylsis

Not true, Russia can defend itself from this type of agression with more conservative buys and just a little help from UK.

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel
              Russians take Archangel from Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Hunan
            Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hunan, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Hunan
            Russians win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Siam to Yunnan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
        1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Yunnan
        3 aaGuns, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
        6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
        3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

    Place Units - Russians
        10 infantry placed in Russia
        2 infantry placed in Volgograd

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 29 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 33 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians : 1.17
Japanese : 0.67

Savegame

[ksmckay]

otherwise everyone would just march on Russia. But it doesnt work most of the time.

[Amon-Sul]

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

even if did not send a single unit to china, u would still smashed moscow like nothing. i ve done the battle calc anaylsis

Not true, Russia can defend itself from this type of agression with more conservative buys and just a little help from UK.

well, i ve bought only inf ,and some mechs and art, even if you convert those mechs and art into inf, thats only a few inf more

how can uk put early pressure on germany?

[Amon-Sul]

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

otherwise everyone would just march on Russia. But it doesnt work most of the time.

thats how ur german play looks like to me in this game. i think u ve found the golden formula to smash moscow in any scenario.

allies need time to boost their engine, and while they do, ur germany smashes moscow already.

the key question is, can the allies take a foothold in w europe then.

but ur turbo mechanized corps can choose to smash ME or India (before or after moscow)

i simply think germans and axis are overpowered.

the bids will grow

[Amon-Sul]

@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

rman play looks like to me in this game. i think u ve found the golden formula to smash moscow in any scenario.
allies need time to boost their engine, and while they do, ur germany smashes moscow already.
the key question is, can the allies take a foothold in w europe then.
but ur turbo mechanized corps can choose to smash ME or India (before or after moscow)
i simply think germans and axis are overpowered.

and u had only 3 small air near russia, others were in w europe, so u can put 100 unis pressure on moscow in rd 6, this is incredible

[ksmckay]

Landings in Normandy/Hol on UK3/4. It only takes a few units to dissuade this I think. If you go max defense with Russia, and germany loses no units G1 and goes all ground, I think its 85-90%. So takeaway a few units, add a UK plane or two, and it wont work and so I wont try it.

[Amon-Sul]

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

not if you evacuated Russia like you did, or at least g2 would have been the same. Though if you had gone heavy atlantic in this game and all other things the same, I would have just waited till J4 to DOW.

I think the pressure with Russia was interesting but not in the amount you did, especially with zero pullback. Having no air really screwed you. And then choosing not to retreat back to Russia on R4 at the latest was the killer.

But I would also never combine that with an emphasis on Italy. Italy is neutralized but there are less costly ways of doing that that dont neuter your ability to pressure germany. But in this game you applied zero pressure to germany and have no ability to apply pressure to germany.

the problem with pullback is taht it was too late when i wanted to pull back