No scramble
Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3
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Oh. my goodness. Well like I told Amon in the first place, it’s a good question lol
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@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
Wow that’s a good question. I assume Russia is at war with Japan because that’s required for them to enter China, so yes. UK is at war with Germany and Russia is at war with Japan, so Russia is at war on the Pacific map and is an ally of UK since Russia is at war with Japan. I’m playing my first game in 2 years, so there’s that caveat, but I believe this is correct
I actually got it right the first time. Because you’re playing BM3, Russia can’t enter China or anything outside of the middle east unless Russia is at war with Japan, so that was relevant too. You telling me I was flat out wrong made me second guess and I got all confused lol
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Whew! I didn’t mislead Amon after all, and your game needs no edits, it’s perfect!!! GAME ON!
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The rationale is, UK is at war with Germany. Russia is at war with Japan. Japan and Germany are allied. Therefore Russia and UK are allies (but only on the Pacific map because just as Krieghund explained, Russia has the split map restriction deal)
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And if Russia is at war with Japan, and USA is at war, then the USA can land in Russia but only on the Pacific map.
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@Amon-Sul OK just in case its lost in the 100 posts, I did post Japan so we are ready to proceed.
Never meant to start all this off. I just wanted confirmation that the split map neutrality was unique to Russia and none of the other powers. Which it is.
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You’re fine, I’m the biggest problem here, getting all confused when you guys want to be able to trust my answers. UK Pacific interactions with Japan and Russia is one of the hardest things in the game to grasp, though, and BM3 adding more rules to Russia on the Pacific map doesn’t help! ;) We got it now, though!
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Huge thanks to Krieghund
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@gamerman01 said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
You’re fine, I’m the biggest problem here, getting all confused when you guys want to be able to trust my answers. UK Pacific interactions with Japan and Russia is one of the hardest things in the game to grasp, though, and BM3 adding more rules to Russia on the Pacific map doesn’t help! ;) We got it now, though!
Thank U too. If it wasnt for Ur i nitial confirmation, i wouldnt go to burma, at all.
So in OOB it would not be possible, only in BM3 it is?
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@Krieghund said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@Krieghund Can Russia move into UK pac territories if UK pac hasnt declared war on Japan? (Japan and Russia are at war).
Yes. The USSR’s state of war with Japan lifts the restrictions of neutral powers from it on the Pacific map. UK is at war with Germany and Italy in Europe, so it is not neutral either. Since neither the USSR nor UK is neutral, USSR may move units into UK territories and vice versa, but only on the Pacific map. Per it’s specific and unique rules, USSR remains neutral on the Europe map, so they may not do so there. No power other than the USSR has separate neutrality on the two maps, so this does not affect UK other than in its interactions with USSR.
Thanks a lot Krieg.
So if the European axis are not at war with Russia, Russia cant enter Burma? (assuming UK Pacific and, Japan are not at, war, and, Russia and Japan are)
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@Amon-Sul OK just in case its lost in the 100 posts, I did post Japan so we are ready to proceed.
Never meant to start all this off. I just wanted confirmation that the split map neutrality was unique to Russia and none of the other powers. Which it is.
We learn things every day. Its good we stoped, sort this out so we may proceed in peace. Thanks to Gamer and Krieg once more.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 4 infantry, 2 submarines and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans 2 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 3 fighters moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima Combat - Americans Battle in Korea Battle in Iwo Jima Americans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Iwo Jima Americans win, taking Korea from Japanese, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco Place Units - Americans 4 infantry placed in Central United States 1 submarine and 4 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Central United States: 1 aaGun EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Western United States: 2 mech_infantrys EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Central United States: 2 mech_infantrys EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans : -0.33 Japanese : -0.67 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 8 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Burma to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan Combat - Chinese Battle in Suiyuyan Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan 1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Shensi Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 8 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/8 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Sikang Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai 3 infantry placed in Yunnan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 11 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese : -2.17 Japanese : 0.33 -
heavy thinking with uk
i think i will attack sz 97 with all i got
i assume u will go full scramble
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I ll play later. Have, family obligations
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 3
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Combat Move - British 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 cruiser moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Kenya British take Kenya from Italians 1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Italian Somaliland British take Italian Somaliland from Italians 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia British take Ethiopia from Italians 1 marine moved from Ceylon to 39 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 2 fighters moved from 39 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone Combat - BritishCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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ok,
i was finally able to play my move
sz 97 scramble orders please
cheers
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@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@Krieghund said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@Krieghund Can Russia move into UK pac territories if UK pac hasnt declared war on Japan? (Japan and Russia are at war).
Yes. The USSR’s state of war with Japan lifts the restrictions of neutral powers from it on the Pacific map. UK is at war with Germany and Italy in Europe, so it is not neutral either. Since neither the USSR nor UK is neutral, USSR may move units into UK territories and vice versa, but only on the Pacific map. Per it’s specific and unique rules, USSR remains neutral on the Europe map, so they may not do so there. No power other than the USSR has separate neutrality on the two maps, so this does not affect UK other than in its interactions with USSR.
Thanks a lot Krieg.
So if the European axis are not at war with Russia, Russia cant enter Burma? (assuming UK Pacific and, Japan are not at, war, and, Russia and Japan are)
No, that’s incorrect. The only thing that keeps one power from entering another powers territory on the same side (other than restrictions specific to one or both of them) is neutrality (being at war with no one). The USSR is the only power that can be neutral on one map and not neutral on the other (all others are either neutral or not). The only condition that the USSR needs to meet in order to move into allied territories on the Pacific map is to be at war with Japan, and the only condition that the USSR needs to meet in order to move into allied territories on the Europe map is to be at war with Germany and/or Italy.
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again no cruiser! Scramble away, 3 ftrs, germam ftrs last.
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
again no cruiser! Scramble away, 3 ftrs, germam ftrs last.
i mean carrier
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