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Imperious Leader

Here are some pics of some possible units to be represented:

Grey light=Italian
Tan= UK
Grey Dark= German
Yellow= Japanese
Olive= USA
Brown= Soviet

tin_snips

i thought the only nation that needed a colour change on its units was Italy (to prevent confusion between Russian and Italion pieces). i don’t think japan needs one though

Imperious Leader

well they asked for all pictures for all possible nations. I got french too but it might crack my camera

tin_snips

i’m surprised the japanese didn’t break the camera, that yellow hurts my eyes!

El Stef

About scales:

The playing pieces are for the moment around this scale:(approximatively)
INF: 20mm - 1/72
ARM: 6mm ) 1/300
ART: 6mm - 1/200 ?
FTR&STR: 1/700
NAV: varying between 1/2000 & 1/3500

There is lot you can buy or use from other A&A games. Of course painting wil be necessary and it is expensive. Often those models are too fragile for A&A ( especially when i’m losing)

INF; a lot on 1/72 scale
ARM: GHQ 1/285
AIR units; 1/700 Aoshima, Pitroad and Fujimi (very nice models !)
NAVAL: on the 1/2400 scale a battleship is around 10 cm. The A&A war at sea models are good but to big (1/1800)
We could consider 1/2400 ( BB = 8 cm) or even 1/6000 (Figurehead) . Smaller units have to be based.

I’ am using wargame models in my variants on A&A and A&A Guadalcanal ( it is neat tomove around white zero’ s with the red sun on their wings).
For the moment i’ am working on a big game board (100 x 160 cm).
For the rockets i use metal models of V1’s and adapted AA guns with small rockets attached. Often we use a house rule regarding tech together with special models:

cheaper R&D
random element in tech
advanced units are more expensive ( jets , heavy bombers, …)
you can produce them only after the tech breaktrough

Greetings
El Stef

Adlertag

The rocket mold must be a V2, because the V1 looks like a fighter with short wings.

(no links, no book recommendations, just trust me on this one)

El Stef

Yes , I agree

Much cooler. But V2’ s are hard to find in small scales. And the sets avalaible now and then are very expensive.
Besides, V1’s could be shot down or “tipped” down by AA or fighters. So rocket attacks not immune for AA- fire!

Greetings
El Stef

Adlertag

@El:

Yes , I agree

Much cooler. But V2’ s are hard to find in small scales. And the sets avalaible now and then are very expensive.

No, they are not

Imperious Leader

INF: 15mm - or 1/87 HO scale
ARM: 1/300
ART: 1/300
FTR&STR: 1/700
NAV: 1/2400

These are the correct AA scales after many thousands of pieces purchased.

Also, the V2 would need to stand up and it wont look right if mono color. You want the V-1 because its more identifiable as a rocket. otherwise it would look like a Saturn V rocket standing up 1 inch.

If you had the V2 on its side it would look like a zeppelin. Remember the level of detail is limited so any ‘torpedo looking’ hunk of plastic is gonna look weird.

I do have another V-1 model which is attached to a ramp. Ill get a pic soon.

Imperious Leader

Thats not a V2. Its not even close. Id much rather have the V-1 model than that.

Ill take some more pics.

Adlertag

Also here are some good infantry molds

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/PeriodList.aspx?period=1

here some of my favourites, the german mountain troops

Adlertag

I also want nation specific molds for the aussies

I love the guy with the sword

Antholin

The Aussie’s must have run out of ammunition, judging by the sword wielding commander and the guy about to throw a beat down with the stock of his rifle, while gripping the barrel. Portrays the Mad Max effect very well, you don’t mess with Australia. :-D

TG Moses VI

Why can’t our German infantry look as good as those! :-D

tin_snips

please, we’d bloody beat you with the stock of our rifle to save ammunition 8-)

Black Fox

I think that you mean to say the following:

IPC - 1 or 2 less than a fighter ( think 8 IPC)
Att - 3
Def - 3 or 2 if attacking fighter is present
Rng - 4

It doesn’t make sense to have altered defense when attacking.

This is an interesting unit, though.

Bardoly

Thanks for correcting my mistake. You, IL and AG 124 got me thinking about this some more. This can actually work both ways for Bombers and Fighter-bombers.

For example: If an attacking Bomber or Fighter-Bomber attacks a territory with no Fighters present then it attack with it’s full attack value but if defending Fighters are present then it’s value is reduce by one. The reason is that we all know when Bombers & Fighter bombers attack with out fighter escorts, defending Fighter are more effective is disrupting the attack by breaking up formations and shooting them down. Thus reducing the bombers ability to inflict damage. However, if they are escorted by Fighters then there is no change. Since defending Fighters are being engaged by attacking Fighters.

On the reverse, if Bombers are attack we know that their defenses are weaker against Fighters. Thus their defense value is decreased. But if defending Fighters are present, then it stays the same.

So here is how the rules would look like.

Fighter/Dive-Bombers
Att - 3 or 2 if attacking without fighter escort and defending fighter is present.
Def - 3 or 2 if attacking fighter is present and no defending fighter is present.

This would also apply to Bombers except for the defense stat. Since a Bomber already defends at one, it can be reduced any further.

Something to think about.

On Medium-Bombers, I’m going to continue to stick to my guns on these. I feel they have an important role to play. On the labeling of bombers. I consider the Heavy Bombers in the R&D role to be Super Bombers (B-29). So we should have Medium, Heavy & Super Bombers.

ElCapitan

THis thread inspiredme to do something about the number and color of the pieces untill someone makes complete high quality replacement pieces. I want two sets please (maybe three).

I combined my AAE, AAP with AA50 pieces and I am in the process of painting the Chinese (dark emerald), Italien (light grey), Japanese (bright red) and Soviet (burgundy).

The other nations have the pieces of close enough colors to leave as is.

crsluggo

One thing that I don’t understand is why AH/WOTC didn’t standardize the colors for each nation. For example, I have German pieces in three shades of gray as well as black pieces. Why couldn’t they pick a color & stay with it in all the games?

Adlertag

@C_Strabala:

One thing that I don’t understand is why AH/WOTC didn’t standarize the colors for each nation. For example, I have German pieces in three shades of gray as well as black pieces. Why couldn’t they pick a color & stay with it in all the games?

They are WOTC after all, remember. Its not like we are talking about sane and rational people here.

Black Fox

Since we are sharing pictures of our pieces here is one of mine. (See below).

The colors that I decided to use were uniform colors that each country used. I prefer military colors. I really don’t care for the non military colors such as blue, red, yellow (Sorry IL, nothing personal) and so on. I did a lot of research and found colors that came close to the actual uniforms as possible. Of course every country used several different colors. I chose ones that were the most common but at the same time showed enough color distinction between each country. So here are the colors I selected. are as follows

US - Medium Green (Model Masters 4734)
GR - RLM02 Gray (Polly Scale F505075)
UK - Dark Tan (Madel Master 4709)
JP - Japan Uniform (Vallejo 923)
SV - Incomplete but plan to use dark brown

Later I will do IT (Green-Gray) & FR (Gray-Blue)

The pieces are a mix of A&A units with a few exception. If you notice I have 2 carriers. The larger one represents a CV and the smaller one a CVE/CVL (original A&A CV).

The DD is actually a Xenon (I hope that is right) CA. It was smaller that the A&A DD. So I use the A&A DD as a CA and the Xenon CA as a DD.

For the Heavy Bombers I use a combo of the original and new A&A 4 engine bombers. For the Medium Bombers I used A&A 2 engine bombers and 1/700 scale models found at Hobby Town USA.

For Fighter/Dive bombers I used the original A&A fighters since they are smaller then the newer A&A fighters.

For Mechanized Infantry I used halftracks from GHQ. I used the M3 for the US & SV, Sdk-25 for GR & JP, and the Bren Carrier for the UK.

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