L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

hat I would like to do apart from this is move 2 tanks from Stalingrad to Caucasus and 1 mech less from Bryansk to Caucasus with then 11 mechs in both spots.

I think U have too many mechs :tongue:

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpenplay said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

1 battleship and 2 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone

U ve bought a bat. :ship:

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

ok remove 1 mech from cauc

but ur germans have to reroll entire attack (1 bom, 1 mech)

as for stalingrad

The attack in Caucasus is the same, so that shouldn’t change, I reckon.

I can reroll Stalingrad then. Ok?

[trulpen]

I didn’t want to remove a mech from the attack in Caucasus, just use less tank in Stalingrad. I used the max amount of mechs though. I’ll redo that battle counting with the possibility of losing 2 mechs.

Somehow I don’t think this is fair though, coming to think of it. Russia hit on the defence in Stalingrad. With this solution there’s 67 % risk that the inf won’t hit.

Like we’ve done before, I think the most fair is that the rolled dice stay. And if risk that the attack fails, we roll for that.

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

my hit stays

Ah, ok, sure this is ok.

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

ok remove 1 mech from cauc

but ur germans have to reroll entire attack (1 bom, 1 mech)

The idea is that those mechs moved in NCM.

[trulpen]

Just move one less from Bryansk.

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 7

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 battleship, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
              Germans take Caucasus from Russians
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        4 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
            Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0,50
Russians : 0,67

Savegame

[trulpen]

You hit again, although it didn’t matter.

[trulpenplay]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 battleship, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus
        7 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
        2 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        2 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 7 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 7 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
            Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 7 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Germans attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 6 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 6 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
            Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
        Battle in Vologda
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 artillery
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
            Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
        Battle in Caucasus
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus
            Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
        3 fighters moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        EDIT: 2 armour moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        9 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Caucasus

    Place Units - Germans
        1 battleship and 2 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        3 artilleries placed in Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,5,3,4,3,5,5,3,1,4,1
        Germans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0,33
British : -0,33
Russians : 0,67

Savegame

[trulpen]

Ok, that’s it.

[Amon-Sul]

its not the same since u re sending 2 tanks less?

[trulpen]

Caucasus is the same. Didn’t send tanks there.

[Amon-Sul]

so u roll 1 bomber, 2 tanks in cauc

and 3 mechs 5 tanks in volgograd?

[Amon-Sul]

ah u are sending tanks there in ncm , not cm, ? ok

[trulpen]

Yes, just to keep options of where they are needed.

[Amon-Sul]

but u have to reroll it, since now u knew u score a hit and u re withdrawing a mech

so if u want to pull it out, u need to reroll ur dice

[trulpen]

And I used one less tank in Stalingrad, since that’s how I would’ve done it if a correct plan.

[Amon-Sul]

u want to pull out the mech.

ok.

re roll the caucaus dice

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

And I used one less tank in Stalingrad, since that’s how I would’ve done it if a correct plan.

U said 2, where is the other one then?