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WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion
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@regularkid Thanks for the reply.
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Few questions to start
- Germany Caucasus objective, assume its control of both north and south Cacausus?
- Can you explain scramble to land better? Does this mean air in Wger can scramble to defend a land attack in Germany?
- Carrier scramble - 1 per carrier right? And as a follow up to previous question, a ftr on carrier in z116 could scramble to defend Norway, Denmark, Wger, or Ger as well as adjancent sea zones?
- Can you comment on civil war and great purge - are those one time penalties?
- Is it correct that there is no convoy in 43?
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@ksmckay I can answer number one since I tested it: The objective require control of only S.Caucasus
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@ksmckay great questions. Addressing them in turn:
Germany Caucasus objective, assume its control of both north and south Cacausus?
The Caucasus objective applies only to Southern Caucasus. This will be clarified in a subsequent patch to the objectives panel.
Can you explain scramble to land better? Does this mean air in Wger can scramble to defend a land attack in Germany?
Yes. West Germany can scramble to defend Germany, as long as there is at least one defending unit already in Germany (including a lone AA gun). Note that France’s airbase is now actually useful, since it can be used to scramble in defense of Normandy, Holland, Southern France, and Western Germany.
Carrier scramble - 1 per carrier right? And as a follow up to previous question, a ftr on carrier in z116 could scramble to defend Norway, Denmark, Wger, or Ger as well as adjancent sea zones?
Yes. One plane per carrier. And a carrier in sz 116 can indeed do all that. For the land territories, there must be at least one defending unit already in the territory.
Can you comment on civil war and great purge - are those one time penalties?
Yes, it is a onetime penalty that only affects starting income.
Is it correct that there is no convoy in 43?
Correct. There is no convoy in sz 43.
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Still no revised tech? I really love the idea of tech, but needs to be revised. Tech played a big role in the real war, and I already know Adam will say well that’s already reflected in the increased income as you conquer more, but I have to say I would really love for tech to be revisited and revised to make it a viable and fun system.
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can a capital ship be built in a sz that has a harbor in a territory different from the fac? e.g., harbor on Hainan but fac in fic.
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@axis-dominion No, both the factory and the harbor need to be in the same territory to build capital ships.
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@Adam514 said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@axis-dominion No, both the factory and the harbor need to be in the same territory to build capital ships.
I feel that may be too restrictive, don’t you think?
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@axis-dominion Only Germany and Central US cannot build capital ships while there’s a harbor for that sea zone, and they have other factories right beside them with harbors so capital ships can be placed there anyway.
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@axis-dominion said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
Still no revised tech? I really love the idea of tech, but needs to be revised. Tech played a big role in the real war, and I already know Adam will say well that’s already reflected in the increased income as you conquer more, but I have to say I would really love for tech to be revisited and revised to make it a viable and fun system.
yeah, tech in BM3 sucks.
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@Adam514 said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@axis-dominion Only Germany and Central US cannot build capital ships while there’s a harbor for that sea zone, and they have other factories right beside them with harbors so capital ships can be placed there anyway.
a minor IC and a harbour are enough to build CS?
so no need for a major IC?
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Factories in Russia: Originally owned Factory Minors in Russia are destroyed upon capture by the Axis.
So what about Moscow major IC?
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@Amon-Sul Just becomes a minor, it is not destroyed.
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@Adam514 said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Amon-Sul Just becomes a minor, it is not destroyed.
in Revised, I think Russia could move its ics in ncm.
we should put it back :)
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@axis-dominion yah, i’ve never really been a tech guy for A&A tbh. But I definitely think it could be a worthwhile pursuit as a mod to PTV, if someone else has good ideas for a tech tree.
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@Amon-Sul No need for a major IC to build capital ships. That is correct. One of the reasons for the harbour restriction was to prevent undue exploitation of the Soviet IC in Siberia. With Russia’s boosted income, it was a concern. Another reason was to prevent what, to me, always seemed a corny scenario of USA pumping out carriers from newly built factories in Greece and Norway.
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@Amon-Sul said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Adam514 said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Amon-Sul Just becomes a minor, it is not destroyed.
in Revised, I think Russia could move its ics in ncm.
we should put it back :)
Adam and I actually gave that some thought. Ultimately we concluded the prospect of a cat-a-mouse with minor factories roaming the Russian countryside wasn’t worth the trouble of adding a complicated ruleset and coding. Usually by the time the factory-capable territories are taken by Axis, Russia doesn’t have enough income to produce in all its factories anyhow. But if you think there are advantages to a moving-factory dynamic, I’d be interested to hear them!
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@regularkid said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Amon-Sul No need for a major IC to build capital ships. That is correct. One of the reasons for the harbour restriction was to prevent undue exploitation of the Soviet IC in Siberia. With Russia’s boosted income, it was a concern. Another reason was to prevent what, to me, always seemed a corny scenario of USA pumping out carriers from newly built factories in Greece and Norway.
U mean, minor ic ;)
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@regularkid said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Amon-Sul said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Adam514 said in WW2 Path to Victory - Rules Discussion:
@Amon-Sul Just becomes a minor, it is not destroyed.
in Revised, I think Russia could move its ics in ncm.
we should put it back :)
Adam and I actually gave that some thought. Ultimately we concluded the prospect of a cat-a-mouse with minor factories roaming the Russian countryside wasn’t worth the trouble of adding a complicated ruleset and coding. Usually by the time the factory-capable territories are taken by Axis, Russia doesn’t have enough income to produce in all its factories anyhow. But if you think there are advantages to a moving-factory dynamic, I’d be interested to hear them!
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Its historically accurate.
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It allowes the continuation of the fight with Germany beyond Moscow.
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It gives Russia the opportunity to take back Moscow.
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I see. So you’d want Russia to continue to be able to produce units even after its capital is taken. I believe world at war is like this?
its an interesting concept. But after a few games playing Germany, i’ll bet you will not be seeking a further buff for Russia. Germany definitely has its job cut out for it.
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