L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3


  • TripleA Turn Summary: French round 4

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians
    
        Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from Northern Territory to South Australia
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
            2 aaGuns, 3 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • Doing Germany.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            10 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            8 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Rostov
            5 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Archangel to Bryansk
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Ukraine
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 17 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 5 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 17 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys in Bryansk, round 2 : 6/40 hits, 9,33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 5 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 15 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 5 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Germans attack with 8 armour, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
                    AA fire in Rostov : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 10/14 hits, 5,50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 6 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    6 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 8 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
            Battle in 115 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            3 aaGuns moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            6 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            7 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 fighter moved from Tobruk to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Ukraine
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 1.
            1 bomber and 2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            2 infantry placed in France
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : -0,17
    AA fire in Rostov : : -0,17
    British : 0,67
    Russians : 3,83
    

    Savegame


  • No complaining, but that was just sick defensive dice. Just a short summary. The inf in W Ukraine hit. The Bryansk stack hit above average, 2 of 1,66. The Rostov stack was even more persistent with a double effort, hitting 4 of 2. The des hit. Even the friggin’ sub hit. Almost everything hit. Amazing.


  • Ah, yes, the anti-airgun didn’t hit. Quite surprisingly.


  • I actually only intended a strafe of Rostov. Hence all the tanks and the tac. Smashing through the defenses wasn’t too bad though. They’re likely untouchable because of Moscow.


  • I’d say this is the back-side of helping out the chinese. Somehow it didn’t work out in our first game. Have to look at why. Will stick it into my report. ;)


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    No complaining, but that was just sick defensive dice. Just a short summary. The inf in W Ukraine hit. The Bryansk stack hit above average, 2 of 1,66. The Rostov stack was even more persistent with a double effort, hitting 4 of 2. The des hit. Even the friggin’ sub hit. Almost everything hit. Amazing.

    nothing spectacular. (in ipc terms)

    but some luck for russians. i am glad :)


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    I’d say this is the back-side of helping out the chinese. Somehow it didn’t work out in our first game. Have to look at why. Will stick it into my report. ;)

    each decision, and stregthening on one side of the board, weakens the other one. it is logical.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    I’d say this is the back-side of helping out the chinese. Somehow it didn’t work out in our first game. Have to look at why. Will stick it into my report. ;)

    what i learn from this game in which u play a much better italy and better japan (also much tanks to that i ve lost my element of surprise) is that allies are overpowered.

    the axis are so strong with all that japanese air, german tanks, italian central position, and they need only 6 VC in the Pacific, 4 they have and Hawaii and India are not so far away. As for Europe, even without Sea Lion, after cracking Russia its just Cairo left, and not far away from Volgograd too.

    I now realise why the top players bid 10+ for the allies, i think it will just grow to 15-20, around 20 , maybe even 20+ for the allies.

    So , that idea of Urs of playing axis without a bid against me, was totally unaceptable. how much i prefer and like to play the allies, i must say that in future, if i wont be able to get a proper bid, i will gladly take axis with some small allied bid for my opponent


  • sorry i wanted to say that the axis are too strong (overpowered)


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    I’d say this is the back-side of helping out the chinese. Somehow it didn’t work out in our first game. Have to look at why. Will stick it into my report. ;)

    and what specifically is the back side of helping chinese that u meantion here?


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    I’d say this is the back-side of helping out the chinese. Somehow it didn’t work out in our first game. Have to look at why. Will stick it into my report. ;)

    and what specifically is the back side of helping chinese that u meantion here?

    That valuable battle power is withdrawn from Moscow.

    If Russia had built only inf and maybe some art, then Germany could not stomp into Bryansk in G5 without any italian can-opening.

    Now Germany is knocking on the doors of Moscow and I believe the defense of that stronghold now is very compromised.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    I’d say this is the back-side of helping out the chinese. Somehow it didn’t work out in our first game. Have to look at why. Will stick it into my report. ;)

    and what specifically is the back side of helping chinese that u meantion here?

    That valuable battle power is withdrawn from Moscow.

    If Russia had built only inf and maybe some art, then Germany could not stomp into Bryansk in G5 without any italian can-opening.

    Now Germany is knocking on the doors of Moscow and I believe the defense of that stronghold now is very compromised.

    but could in G6 or G7 ?


  • And of course, very significant, that 2 mech, 2 tank, 2 fig and 1 tac would be part of the defense. The air makes a great job at offensive defense, i e small battles.


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    but could in G6 or G7 ?

    Depends a lot on how much reinforcements is coming in from Berlin. Not impossible, but much more difficult. The thing is that without being able to land air after moving in the stack, it’s usually more susceptible to counter-attack. Of course, you know this.

    In BM3 Russia is usually to strong for Germany to just have it’s way with it. In OOB it’s a little bit different, since it’s so easy to exclude Russia from it’s NOs. 7 extra IPC per round from R2-3) to R in the beginning is a big issue for the situation in G5-7.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel
                  Russians take Archangel from Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Malaya
            2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Malaya
            6 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
            2 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Rostov
                Russians attack with 6 artilleries and 9 infantry
                Germans defend with 8 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 9 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 6/15 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians, 5 armour owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                    Russians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 6 infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 5/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour in Rostov, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 6 artilleries and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 40
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 8 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Malaya
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Malaya, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Malaya
                Russians win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            4 infantry moved from Vologda to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
            8 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Samara
            2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
            1 aaGun, 6 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
            1 bomber moved from Amur to Western United States
            2 aaGuns and 16 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
            2 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Malaya to Yunnan
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Russians
            7 infantry placed in Russia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 30 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : -1.83
    Russians : 3.00
    Japanese : -0.33
    

    Savegame


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    but could in G6 or G7 ?

    Depends a lot on how much reinforcements is coming in from Berlin. Not impossible, but much more difficult. The thing is that without being able to land air after moving in the stack, it’s usually more susceptible to counter-attack. Of course, you know this.

    In BM3 Russia is usually to strong for Germany to just have it’s way with it. In OOB it’s a little bit different, since it’s so easy to exclude Russia from it’s NOs. 7 extra IPC per round from R2-3) to R in the beginning is a big issue for the situation in G5-7.

    even if i had those units russia would fall eventualy if germany is totally into it.

    i ve decided to take my risks. we will see if they pay off


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    even if i had those units russia would fall eventualy if germany is totally into it.

    i ve decided to take my risks. we will see if they pay off

    Went very well in Rostov. Valuable tanks annihilated. So they weren’t immune after all. :) Well, we’ll see.


  • @trulpen said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #3 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    even if i had those units russia would fall eventualy if germany is totally into it.

    i ve decided to take my risks. we will see if they pay off

    Went very well in Rostov. Valuable tanks annihilated. So they weren’t immune after all. :) Well, we’ll see.

    i ve sent to many units, now my guys will be annihilated, but i was afraid of bad dice

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