L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3

[trulpen]

The only two shadows in your setups is holding out on the Russians and lack of land in Asia.

[trulpen]

Yes, and not so high income as well. That hurts. Which was the point of all that SBR.

[trulpen]

Don’t think you’ll repair it all, but that’s 21 IPC of damage. A bit on the low side. With mean dice it would’ve been 27-28.

[trulpen]

I took quite a high risk there when blocking with 2 des. If Italy had succeded breaking the block that whole fleet would now be ocean filling.

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

The only two shadows in your setups is holding out on the Russians and lack of land in Asia.

Yeah, well, I am a solid, not a perfect player.

And some sacrificies had to be made for greater good.

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

Yes, and not so high income as well. That hurts. Which was the point of all that SBR.

I miss Novgorod, that is +7 ;)

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

And some sacrificies had to be made for greater good.

Said the Nazi! :laughing:

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

I took quite a high risk there when blocking with 2 des. If Italy had succeded breaking the block that whole fleet would now be ocean filling.

I had 30 % I think, I simply had to try.

[trulpen]

Yes, that was the main point of stacking there. Not so much to put pressure on Finland and Norway. On short sight that’s rather pointless for dear Russia.

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

The only two shadows in your setups is holding out on the Russians and lack of land in Asia.

What do U mean by holding out on the Russians, U mean playing too defensively against Russia?

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

Yes, that was the main point of stacking there. Not so much to put pressure on Finland and Norway. On short sight that’s rather pointless for dear Russia.

Allied cooperation. nice.

[trulpen]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

Yes, that was the main point of stacking there. Not so much to put pressure on Finland and Norway. On short sight that’s rather pointless for dear Russia.

At the same time I had a very good alternative of staying in Belarus and preventing intrusion in E Poland. But maybe I didn’t have quite enough for that feat?

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen

I am not sure now, hard to tell, should had to go to look the past situation on the map.

i am thinking about my German move now, and buyings, there are more options, and I need to choose one of them xd

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

What do U mean by holding out on the Russians, U mean playing too defensively against Russia?

Yes, and mainly a lot of investment has gone into fleet and kicking UKs butt, but that means Germany is rather weak on the eastern front. I believe more immediate pressure has to be made against Russia. It’s Germany’s key objective in the early game. Early Sea Lion is a trap.

[trulpen]

At the same time you killed me with your awkward (or atleast unorthodox) allied opening. It’s a bit too early to conclude this game. Italy is a powerhouse!

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

What do U mean by holding out on the Russians, U mean playing too defensively against Russia?

Yes, and mainly a lot of investment has gone into fleet and kicking UKs butt, but that means Germany is rather weak on the eastern front. I believe more immediate pressure has to be made against Russia. It’s Germany’s key objective in the early game. Early Sea Lion is a trap.

So U do not think Sea Lion (even if sucessfull) is a good option?

[Amon-Sul]

hey, just one thing about Mongolian treaty.

U can only break it if U attack Japanese territory bordering Mongolia.

If U attack Japanese controlled Kansu , U deactivate the Treaty.

But if U attack Japan in Sikang U do not.

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

So U do not think Sea Lion (even if sucessfull) is a good option?

No. Definitely not. The only exception is if it was able to be executed with minimal investments.

Now I’m not saying this about Sea Lion in general, only the very early one, like during G2-4.

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

hey, just one thing about Mongolian treaty.

U can only break it if U attack Japanese territory bordering Mongolia.

If U attack Japanese controlled Kansu , U deactivate the Treaty.

But if U attack Japan in Sikang U do not.

I presume you mean Suiyuyan. Yes, it only gets in effect regarding territories bordering Mongolia.

If Japan conquers Suiyuyan and Russia attacks it, Mongolia is off.

By the same measure I don’t believe it gets activated if Japan attacks Suiyuyan and there are russian troops there. So activating Mongolia would only happen when attacking russian territories.

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #2 Amon-Sul (X) vs trulpen (A+7) BM3:

hey, just one thing about Mongolian treaty.

U can only break it if U attack Japanese territory bordering Mongolia.

If U attack Japanese controlled Kansu , U deactivate the Treaty.

But if U attack Japan in Sikang U do not.

I presume you mean Suiyuyan. Yes, it only gets in effect regarding territories bordering Mongolia.

If Japan conquers Suiyuyan and Russia attacks it, Mongolia is off.

By the same measure I don’t believe it gets activated if Japan attacks Suiyuyan and there are russian troops there. So activating Mongolia would only happen when attacking russian territories.

Suyiyuan, Kansu, Chahar,i mean all of them.

Well it is different. Japan activates Mongolian treaty only when attackin ORIGINAL Russian territories bordering Mongolia,

while Russia can deactivate it while attacking any Japanese territory bordering Mongolia (does not have to be original Japanese one).
And i think if Russia attacks Korea its the same as attacking Japanese territory bordering Mongolia