trulpen (X) vs oysteilo (A+5) BM3


  • Just put two figs on the ac in sz6, noticing that there’s a possibility to disrupt russian convoys from Korea.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 16

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters and 6 submarines moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Greece to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking 44 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Celebes from Japanese, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Caucasus
                Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                Americans win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 17 fighters, 6 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 5 carriers, 2 destroyers, 13 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 carriers, 3 destroyers and 2 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 1,00
    Americans : 1,17
    Japanese : -0,33
    

    Savegame


  • sub hits in 99

    I assumed max scramble


  • All causalties should be taken account for, but I’d say it’s safe to say that I tip 2 G ac at this point.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 16

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters and 6 submarines moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Greece to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking 44 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Celebes from Japanese, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Caucasus
                Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                Americans win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 17 fighters, 6 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 5 carriers, 2 destroyers, 13 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 carriers, 3 destroyers and 2 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Germans
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 17 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 13/24 hits, 12,00 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 1,00
    Americans : 2,17
    Japanese : -0,33
    

    Savegame


  • 13 more hits


  • Realize UK has a ton of air as well. That was a serious over-sight.

    1. 2 sub
    2. sink 2 I ac
    3. sink 2 G ac
    4. dmg 1 G ac
    5. 3 I des
    6. 1 G des

    2 + 4 + 4 + 1 + 3 + 1 = 15 (incl sub hits)


  • Wait. Might re-evaluate.


  • Thinking perhaps I should do max d instead, with more dmg ac’s. Would mean though that US may simply just withdraw and then UK finishes it off. Just give me a minute.


  • ok. i wait


  • Think I will go max def instead.

    1. 2 sub
    2. dmg 2 I ac
    3. dmg 3 G ac
    4. 3 I des
    5. 1 G des
    6. sink 2 I ac

    2 + 2 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 2 = 13 (excl sub hits)


  • ok. coming up in a few minutes


  • Now, please MARTI, give me some decent dice! :heart:


  • You had 14 on mean and hit 15. G/I has 15 on mean and hits drum roll


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 16

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters and 6 submarines moved from 92 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
    
        Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Greece to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking 44 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Celebes from Japanese, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Caucasus
                Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caucasus
                Americans win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 17 fighters, 6 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 5 carriers, 2 destroyers, 13 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 carriers, 3 destroyers and 2 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Germans
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 17 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 13/24 hits, 12,00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 7 carriers, 5 destroyers, 13 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 18/29 hits, 14,67 expected hits
                    6 submarines owned by the Americans, 3 destroyers owned by the Italians, 1 cruiser owned by the Americans, 2 submarines owned by the Germans, 3 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Germans, 3 carriers owned by the Americans, 1 bomber owned by the Americans and 2 carriers owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                 retreated to 99 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 4 carriers, 2 destroyers, 13 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -59
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 6 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Germans: 1 carrier and 2 submarines
                Casualties for Italians: 2 carriers and 3 destroyers
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Greece
                10 fighters owned by the Germans and 4 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans forced to land in Greece
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            7 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
            10 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 4,00
    Americans : 2,17
    Japanese : -0,33
    

    Savegame


  • i will continue later


  • its a hard call to make. I am not sure what I would have done


  • If I’d know the outcome of these dice, I’d saved 4 untipped ac’s and maybe a des. Couldn’t count on it though, which means anything saved would be massacred by the brits anyway. Atleast that was my conclusion.


  • i know. Thats why we do round by round in these battles. If you save undamaged carriers and hit 11 instead of 18 it is a disaster for you. Still you have a chance to make a dent to the british. i think I would have made same selection. Hard to say and no “correct” answer


  • Doesn’t matter much, but the correct fleet in sz99 should be 1 des, 5 dmg ac.

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