L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

And I rolled the dice. If you happened to roll any, they’re invalid. Right?

no , i thought u wanted me to sank the ships, and the dices automatically rolled, i posted immediately, and they should count.
tehnically the defender rolls its dice.

but we are not doing it cus its too slow, and virtual of course

I don’t agree with this. Technically in triplea the attacker rolls all dice. When looking at the position, the defender should not click anything, but just evaluate and make a decision. Atleast that’s how it always goes. You agree?

but i thought u wont me to sank the ships, and the diceserver rolled automatically. tehnically neither of us rolls, but the server. but as in aa board game, tehnically i have the right to do my dices. but i think its not issue here, but which dices rolled first.

i think usa did. i would have any problems if it was the other way around and u rolled it. it doesnt matter who roll it , but the matter is what is rolled. at least i see it that way

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

the rolls were

1 2 3 3 2

u have it in the log in the map i reposted

Ok, sorry, but since we are in disagreement I guess we should call in some referee. Should I call out for gamerman?

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

but we are not doing it cus its too slow, and virtual of course

Yes, that’s why there is this custom of attacker doing it all, but also to avoid situations like this, when double rolls are made.

yes, i agree, and i tell u i misread ur message, u said sink the ships then, i thought it was directed to me, why would i otherwise do it

and i didnt plan to roll dices, they rolled automatically

i thought that i ll remove my ships and repost the map with that decision that u wanted me that

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

the rolls were

1 2 3 3 2

u have it in the log in the map i reposted

Ok, sorry, but since we are in disagreement I guess we should call in some referee. Should I call out for gamerman?

i have no problem with that, but in case ur dices were rolled before mine, i withdraw my claim and agree to Ur retreat and nulifying my dice.

cheers

[Amon-Sul]

and in other case (my dice rolled first) i agree to referee s decision.

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

And I rolled the dice. If you happened to roll any, they’re invalid. Right?

no , i thought u wanted me to sank the ships, and the dices automatically rolled, i posted immediately, and they should count.
tehnically the defender rolls its dice.

but we are not doing it cus its too slow, and virtual of course

I don’t agree with this. Technically in triplea the attacker rolls all dice. When looking at the position, the defender should not click anything, but just evaluate and make a decision. Atleast that’s how it always goes. You agree?

but i thought u wont me to sank the ships, and the diceserver rolled automatically. tehnically neither of us rolls, but the server. but as in aa board game, tehnically i have the right to do my dices. but i think its not issue here, but which dices rolled first.

i think usa did. i would have any problems if it was the other way around and u rolled it. it doesnt matter who roll it , but the matter is what is rolled. at least i see it that way

You may very well be right. I follow your logic, but don’t fully agree. Trying to contemplate it. I also don’t care which dice were rolled first or last.

What if your opponent goes in and rolls the battle when getting scramble options. Would it count?

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

And I rolled the dice. If you happened to roll any, they’re invalid. Right?

no , i thought u wanted me to sank the ships, and the dices automatically rolled, i posted immediately, and they should count.
tehnically the defender rolls its dice.

but we are not doing it cus its too slow, and virtual of course

I don’t agree with this. Technically in triplea the attacker rolls all dice. When looking at the position, the defender should not click anything, but just evaluate and make a decision. Atleast that’s how it always goes. You agree?

but i thought u wont me to sank the ships, and the diceserver rolled automatically. tehnically neither of us rolls, but the server. but as in aa board game, tehnically i have the right to do my dices. but i think its not issue here, but which dices rolled first.

i think usa did. i would have any problems if it was the other way around and u rolled it. it doesnt matter who roll it , but the matter is what is rolled. at least i see it that way

You may very well be right. I follow your logic, but don’t fully agree. Trying to contemplate it. I also don’t care which dice were rolled first or last.

What if your opponent goes in and rolls the battle when getting scramble options. Would it count?

i dont understand this scramble part, can u please clarify

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

the rolls were

1 2 3 3 2

u have it in the log in the map i reposted

Ok, sorry, but since we are in disagreement I guess we should call in some referee. Should I call out for gamerman?

i have no problem with that, but in case ur dices were rolled before mine, i withdraw my claim and agree to Ur retreat and nulifying my dice.

cheers

[trulpen]

According to my dicemail my dice were rolled 16.38 and yours 16.39. So, you are ok with that?

[Amon-Sul]

Well, first of all i ve rolled it by accident. Its first time in the game of 1000 times, because it was not deliberate.

Second, i dont have problems with my opponents rolling their rolls each round, except it would so slow the game we would be playing ages.

[trulpen]

What does your dicemail say?

[Amon-Sul]

i ll go check
wait

[trulpen]

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

Well, first of all i ve rolled it by accident. Its first time in the game of 1000 times, because it was not deliberate.

Second, i dont have problems with my opponents rolling their rolls each round, except it would so slow the game we would be playing ages.

Yes, it can happen. My view is that a mistaken roll is not valid. But we don’t have to agree on that.

Yes, it would definitely take longer overall. Although not in situations like this when both are present, then it would take about the same time since the attacker needs to wait for a decision on causalties.

I think this custom is mainly to avoid conflicting dice. When the player who’s turn it is rolls all dice, there’s no discussion. Of course, it’s mainly about the definition of custom.

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

What does your dicemail say?

u re correct.

u rolled at 4:38
i at 4:39

i accept ur dice

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

Well, first of all i ve rolled it by accident. Its first time in the game of 1000 times, because it was not deliberate.

Second, i dont have problems with my opponents rolling their rolls each round, except it would so slow the game we would be playing ages.

Yes, it can happen. My view is that a mistaken roll is not valid. But we don’t have to agree on that.

Yes, it would definitely take longer overall. Although not in situations like this when both are present, then it would take about the same time since the attacker needs to wait for a decision on causalties.

I think this custom is mainly to avoid conflicting dice. When the player who’s turn it is rolls all dice, there’s no discussion. Of course, it’s mainly about the definition of custom.

i would go for the referee if rolled later, and of course abide by its decisions because

1. u told me to sank the ships, at least i interpreted in that way
2. i did not wanted to roll
3. tehnically i have the right to roll my dice , since online A&A follows the board game.

and i agree with u that its a custom that attacker does the dice, so from now on we can have it that way and all other dices are invalid.

it will be in this case also , since i rolled later, and there is no need for referee.decisions.

i apologise once again for my clumsiness.

cheers

[trulpen]

Ok, it’s best that we can solve this ourselves. Sorry for the mess. I’ll post screenshots further on.

[Amon-Sul]

if u rolled later sorry

only 1 minute and it would go for referee xd

[Amon-Sul]

@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

Ok, it’s best that we can solve this ourselves. Sorry for the mess. I’ll post screenshots further on.

as true gentlemen we did. but even if we went for referee its also better than arguing , and one side leting it go but pist off hehe

[trulpen]

Yes, it’s difficult to discuss via text only, but I think we handled it pretty civilized. ;)

[Amon-Sul]

if i see correct, triple a allows instant screenshot posting