• The German’s lack of a modern escort fighter was a huge set back in the Battle of Britain. The Me-110 was a complete failure at this job. The Me-109 was a great fighter, however, it was an interceptor not an escort fighter.


  • yeah, the BF-110 was that bad they needed a fighter escort on on their escort missions.

    http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/ww2-fighter-planes/

    some great information and pictures of wwII aircraft here.


  • All i can say is that somtimes more is better as the luftwaffe could have won but they stopped bombing airfileds so this gave the allies a chance to get airfields sending planes.  1 thing what i like abotu when i play is bombing 2 airfactories both of them which they have it will take 5 turns to get 2 new ones and that is if not buying any tanks/men/ships since u can’t buy planes until turn 3 ofincome it is brilliant and germany maybe loses 10 fighters out of 50

    This stops the allies from an ealry d-day which is 1 of the only flaws in this


  • @Imperious:

    not 10 to 1, more like 2.5 to 1

    better pilots, Radar giving early warning, and bombing in daylight.

    Germans should have just sent in fighters to raid airfields and engage fighters. Bombers should have came over only in night.

    The loses are mainly bombers and stukas

    The highest kill ratio for british fighters in the Battle of Britain is the Hurricane due to it’s job shooting down easy targets like the 110 and Ju-87’s. Not to challenge your imperial knowledge, oh great giver of karma  :-) But I believe the British eventually had a 5-1 kill ratio going. This is credited to the brave RAF pilots of both the Hurricane and the Spitfire.

    An EXCELLENT book to read is “Spitfires, Thunderbolts and Warm Beer” which are the diaries of Lee Gover, a volunteer spitfire pilot in the battle of Britain. Excellent first hand accounts. He was the only one in his squad to return from the battle at Dieppe.


  • I was quoting for the overall planes shot down, not individual by plane type.


  • @Imperious:

    I was quoting for the overall planes shot down, not individual by plane type.

    Oh ok. So was I but I was talking about their highest level not overall for the entire battle. I could definately be wrong though.


  • i think it varied considerably throughout the campaign, at times the ratio would have been higher than 2:1, maybe even 5:1, i doubt it would ever have been much higher than that. at other times the ratio would have been in favour of the luftwaffe. i can not say for sure, although i think the ratio was calculated week by week.


  • of course it did as it varied by day and hour. I am talking about cumulative total for the entire campaign in 1940


  • i have been reading some records taken at the time of the battle of britain accounted day by day,
    during the first days the luftwaffe suffered very high losses compared to the RAF, the ratio being as high as 6:1 at times.
    i dont know the exact overall ratio of the battle, i suspect it could be as high as 3:1.


  • There settled.

    Aircraft Losses: England

    Fighters: 1,023
    Bombers: 376
    Maritime: 148 aircraft (Coastal Command)
    Total: 1,547 aircraft destroyed.

    Aircraft Losses: Germany

    Fighters: 873
    Bombers:1,014
    Total: 1,887 aircraft destroyed
    Luftwaffe; Pilots and Aircrew Killed: 2,500.

    Germany lost about 17% more than UK in total plane loses, but Germany lost as many bombers as UK lost fighters and thats a alot.

    Civilian Casualties
    27,450 British civilians dead,
    32,138 wounded


  • The Imperious leader settles all with one crushing blow. Well done on getting that info for us!


  • Clap clap (so the germans lost more aircraft) 
    That was my guess but so… many bombers


  • @italiansarecoming:

    Clap clap (so the germans lost more aircraft) 
    That was my guess but so… many bombers

    Yeah, you can attibute most of those losses to the bf110 and probably the stuka along with the HE-111 (God I love that bomber). The 110 probably took the most losses is my guess. That plane was outdated very soon after it’s introduction and was reffered to as “meat on the table” along with other various twin engine bombers encountered.


  • I bet bombers loses were a large number of stukas in those daylight raids and not Heinkels.


  • The Bf110 did find some sucess as a low level fighter/bomber in 1940. Later years the bf110, under the mask of darkness, found itself not the prey but a preditor of of R.A.F bombers.

    Yet,I would hate to find myself behind the controls of a 110 and have Spitfires attacking.


  • I agree with Imperious. The Stukas probably sustained much higher losses as the fighters were not ordered to protect them in full squadrons as they were with the 111’s


  • Speaking of fighters, anyone have a plane they’re using in the game they are especially fond of? I personally love using the Stuka to take out Russian tanks that pose the most serious threat.

    I still need to get a 109 or Fock Wulf however. I’ve only got that and the Dornier so far and we rarely play 1945 battles. Besides, how much action did that plane really see? I like our battles to be as historically correct as possible and I’m sorry I bought it. I should have bought a plane that was actually more commonly used. I really want the 109 ace.

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    My fav is the Hellcat. It’s so American. The Corsair is pretty close as is the Mustang and the Thunderbolt, but the Hellcat was the glove that bloodied the Japs nose. The Wildcat was there first, but the Hellcat was good ol’ American muscle and .50 cal American lead.

    USA USA USA!!!


  • @Obergruppenfuhrer:

    Speaking of fighters, anyone have a plane they’re using in the game they are especially fond of? I personally love using the Stuka to take out Russian tanks that pose the most serious threat.

    I still need to get a 109 or Fock Wulf however. I’ve only got that and the Dornier so far and we rarely play 1945 battles. Besides, how much action did that plane really see? I like our battles to be as historically correct as possible and I’m sorry I bought it. I should have bought a plane that was actually more commonly used. I really want the 109 ace.

    Uh…what game are you talking about?


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