@Panther
Thank you very much !
Anniversary Edition already Obsolete/Superceded?
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Ill check up on these prices but i would have to pay alot to get it to the states.
I think they are overpriced to say the least.
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@Imperious:
oh come on man we are all drinking cool aid. Get on the bandwagen!
I have to say, now that it is finally here, I am quite conflicted. I’m thinking about selling my copy of revised for about 25 bucks if I can find any takers… 70 - 25 = 45, which is more reasonable. Still I’m debating the necessity of this seeing how it’s just an expanded version of a game I own… if playtest reports say that JTDTM is dead and there is an actual Pacific struggle, that could tip me into the buy range. Right now I’m on the fence.
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Larry made it clear in his introduction to the game that he designed it as a balanced attack for the allies. NO MORE KGF OR KJF… its just kill axis first.
If you no longer play MB, then having AA50 would do the same thing to AAR…which did the same thing to AAR.
You must buy AA50. Its awesome!
just use the AAR pieces as back ups. You will need extra chips for AA50.Use them from AAR
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@Imperious:
Larry made it clear in his introduction to the game that he designed it as a balanced attack for the allies. NO MORE KGF OR KJF… its just kill axis first.
If you no longer play MB, then having AA50 would do the same thing to AAR…which did the same thing to AAR.
You must buy AA50. Its awesome!
just use the AAR pieces as back ups. You will need extra chips for AA50.Use them from AAR
Designers can fall short of their goals, however :wink: I’m just a bit skeptical after Revised was a huge KGF game. After hearing some playtests, I’ll see (yes, I have a will of steel in order to say that!).
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Of course it would be possible to spend more money against one or the other, but to the extent of which we saw in Revised was clearly going way too far with in many cases NO MONEY SPENT on one theater in the effort to win the other. That was ridiculous from a historical point of view.
In lots of revised games USA didn’t do jack against japan until Germany was defeated or close …well you know.
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I have only played appr. 25 games of AAR. With USA I never went after germany directly. I used the bomber for SBR. I would spend 10 IPC usually each round to secure Africa. The rest of my IPCs went into a Pacific war. It was a much better game that way. UK could mostly concentrate on Europe.
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Obsolete? I got Anniversary Edition yesterday and it looks like the best edition yet. And Guadalcanal and Bulge were also excellent. The game has enough complexity without being burdened by too many rules.
There is no way to make a boardgame reflect “real war.” In WWII, nations didn’t take turns attacking or roll dice to decide how many infantry are killed before any tanks could be touched before any planes could be destroyed (a reason why the random hit scoring systems from the previous editions were so nice).
It’s a game, enjoy it!
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@Rakeman:
I’m just a bit skeptical after Revised was a huge KGF game.
I must disagree strongly. Many people play KGF but that is far from being the only competitive strat, and I’m even begining to think that KGF is not the best strat. The thing I fear is, with a so weakened China and a so powered Japan, 1941 scenario will be very unbalanced (giving axis a too easy victory)
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I only occasional play AA (in any incarnation), but what I know of the Wargame is making me happy by sticking to AA (come on UK panthers - or I am wrong here ;))
Never got into the AA campaign games (DD Bulge,…) and played only a bit revised…
I actually liked Europe and Pacific, but the original game was best so far :D
Looking forward to AA50 - it seems to be th game it should have been from the start…
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@Imperious:
Of course it would be possible to spend more money against one or the other, but to the extent of which we saw in Revised was clearly going way too far with in many cases NO MONEY SPENT on one theater in the effort to win the other. That was ridiculous from a historical point of view.
In lots of revised games USA didn’t do jack against japan until Germany was defeated or close …well you know.
Yup, if in AA50 spending nothing on Pacific = you lose, period, then yeah I’ll have to buy.
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So I take it that the Great Imperious Leader is a German player?
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I prefer the axis because its more challenging. IN order of preference:
Japan
Germany
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Ah, I see. You just threw me off with your German Officer uniform and your plans for a Fuhrerbunker. Anyway, I think the British are more challenging than Germany, though I agree that the Allies are easier overall than the Axis, as the the Axis must do or die from the beginning while time is obviously on the side of the allies.
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UK may be harder because they are all over the map. Germany needs more quality play and less margin for error which to me is a harder thing, while UK can make more mistakes by comparison and still win.
The Soviets are like Germany in the manner that quality of play is crucial…especially in the beginning.
but you know that if you play revised.
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Well put. Germany definitely has little room for error, and one unlucky toss of the dice in the East and the game’s decided (in some games I’ve seen this, at least). The British however can be reduced to pretty much nothing if they don’t act quickly and rightly, as they can lose all of Africa and the eastern possesions in a few turns and be essentially relegated to a minor nuisance off the coast of Europe, irritating Germany more than actually threatening it.
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Well written, support it
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