League General Discussion Thread

[Sovietishcat]

@Adam514 and @trulpen Thank you.

[Sovietishcat]

@Adam514 can you please help me here, so I have 4 transports alone in sz 91 and the german fleet is in sz 112 and I have a fleet in sz 110. So the german player sends one sub in sz 110 as a combat and send one fighter at sz 91, so obviously I thought you cannot send a plane in a suicidal mission but because the german player intended to sink my fleet with his sub and then move the AC to land the plane in NCM… Is it a legal move? The sub did not win the sea zone battle in 110. So the AC is staying in sz 112.

[farmboy]

@Sovietishcat said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Adam514 can you please help me here, so I have 4 transports alone in sz 91 and the german fleet is in sz 112 and I have a fleet in sz 110. So the german player sends one sub in sz 110 as a combat and send one fighter at sz 91, so obviously I thought you cannot send a plane in a suicidal mission but because the german player intended to sink my fleet with his sub and then move the AC to land the plane in NCM… Is it a legal move? The sub did not win the sea zone battle in 110. So the AC is staying in sz 112.

The sub attack creates the possibility (however unlikely) that the fighter in 91 can land on the carrier. So it is a legal move. But I think we’ve all been there so I feel your pain.

[Sovietishcat]

@farmboy ok thanks, next time I’ll know!!

[Adam514]

@Sovietishcat Indeed it’s legal.

[Karl7]

@Adam514
Hey!
What’s going on here?

Been buried at work so A&A’s taken a back seat.

Anyone find a good solution to the gibraltar airbase UK1 move?

[Adam514]

@Karl7 G1 bomber or transport buy prevents SZ92 stack.

[Karl7]

@Adam514

So Italy takes Alg, then Germany blitzes 92 is not longer in favor?

Or is that the bomber?

Also, what does the trn do? Soft sealion?

[Adam514]

@Karl7 The threat of Sealion/SZ92 attack prevents the UK from defending both enough

[Karl7]

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Karl7 The threat of Sealion/SZ92 attack prevents the UK from defending both enough

But in either event a G1 full navy build is off the table.

[oysteilo]

in BM I think the sz 92 stack is shiite for allies, okey in OOB I think.

[Karl7]

@oysteilo said in League General Discussion Thread:

in BM I think the sz 92 stack is shiite for allies, okey in OOB I think.

Oh? Why? I’ve found it somewhat effective in the past.

[oysteilo]

It’s not absolute, but in most situations the british has to leave the med in round 2.

Assuming the british get a bid of 6 i think Taranto is better. In most situations the italians will take Greece in round 1. Taranto allows a plane stack at Malta. It kreps the italians honest round 2. If the BRITISH leave the med the objectives are lost and italy and germany gain theirs

[Karl7]

@oysteilo said in League General Discussion Thread:

It’s not absolute, but in most situations the british has to leave the med in round 2.

Assuming the british get a bid of 6 i think Taranto is better. In most situations the italians will take Greece in round 1. Taranto allows a plane stack at Malta. It kreps the italians honest round 2. If the BRITISH leave the med the objectives are lost and italy and germany gain theirs

Interesting, usually the Brits stack 92 and then move against Italy. Sealion is off the table since Germany would not buy a fleet G2 w/UK fleet in 92.

[axis-dominion]

@Karl7 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Sealion is off the table since Germany would not buy a fleet G2 w/UK fleet in 92.

except if you’re Karl, in which case Germany would still consider sea lion (yes, you have sea lion’ed my 92 stack in the past lol)

[DizzKneeLand33]

Refresh my memory, I thought when bidding if you place a land unit it has to be where another land unit already exists (this may also be true of sea units). Did this rule change sometime in the past 5 years? :)

Of course, I’m talking about bidding an inf to NG, since that was always the main issue.

[DizzKneeLand33]

If it’s legal, no worries, just consider me to be permabidding that one for now on :)

[farmboy]

@DizzKneeLand33 any kind of bid is legal if both players agree. But the default is that you can place no more than one unit where you already have units. So you are within your rights to say no if someone wants to do that.

[simon33]

My understanding that the Gibraltar airbase is still the go to move for the allies. Perhaps I’m missing something.

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Karl7 G1 bomber or transport buy prevents SZ92 stack.

If you assume 2 bombers bought, no scramble to 110, all Luftwaffe returning to W Germany/Rome. That leaves:
Ger: 4bomb, 5tac 5ftr
UK: 5ftr 1CV 2CA 2DD

That makes the attack on SZ92 99% +30TUV 6.8 planes remaining.
vs no bombers bought which makes it 83% +14TUV

Is such an attack beneficial for the Axis? On paper, yes. Although such heavy plane losses reduce their options later in the game. I guess Italy could go wild.

JDOW had a move G1 of 2 subs to SZ91, attack SZ110 only. If the SZ106 & SZ91 attacks succeeds, 2that reduces the forces available to SZ92 by a CA & DD. Combine this with a 2bomber buy G1, perhaps the attack is good. Or if the subs in SZ91 aren’t killed (as JDOW did to me once). Hmm.

[Karl7]

@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:

My understanding that the Gibraltar airbase is still the go to move for the allies. Perhaps I’m missing something.

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Karl7 G1 bomber or transport buy prevents SZ92 stack.

If you assume 2 bombers bought, no scramble to 110, all Luftwaffe returning to W Germany/Rome. That leaves:
Ger: 4bomb, 5tac 5ftr
UK: 5ftr 1CV 2CA 2DD

That makes the attack on SZ92 99% +30TUV 6.8 planes remaining.
vs no bombers bought which makes it 83% +14TUV

Is such an attack beneficial for the Axis? On paper, yes. Although such heavy plane losses reduce their options later in the game. I guess Italy could go wild.

JDOW had a move G1 of 2 subs to SZ91, attack SZ110 only. If the SZ106 & SZ91 attacks succeeds, 2that reduces the forces available to SZ92 by a CA & DD. Combine this with a 2bomber buy G1, perhaps the attack is good. Or if the subs in SZ91 aren’t killed (as JDOW did to me once). Hmm.

The threat of buying 1 trn G1 is interesting. If UK blows 15 on AB and then buys 4 dudes for defense with only 1 Ftr in London… that’s not enough to hold?