ANZAC attacks the Philippines
Moves a CV, TAC, FTR, 2 DD and 2 SS into the Philippines seazone along with 3 fully loaded TRN
Japan has 2 SS in the sea zone, decides to use its kamikazes against the ANZAC surface fleet and scrambles the FTR and TAC that are on the Philippines to force a sea combat (otherwise it would have been an amphibious assault without sea combat).
1 the kamikazes eliminate 2 DD and damage the CV
2 both sides submarines decide to stay and fight, JAP scores one hit which ANZAC absorbs against the CV that is now sunk
3 as a result of no destroyers left, there are essentially 2 separate battles (2 SS vs 2 SS, and FTR+TAC vs FTR+TAC)
4 at the end, JAP has 1 SS left (kept the SS fighting to hopefully prevent amphibious assault, is that the right assumption?), ANZAC has one FTR left
What happens? Must ANZAC retreat its 3 loaded TRN since it has no attacking sea battle combat units left that could hit the remaining JAP SS or does it get to land on Philippines? And the ANZAC FTR has one movement point left and is thus basically lost. Japan kept its subs on the surface to prevent the landing and eliminate the ANZAC subs.
Based on my reading of the Defenseless Transports rule, ANZAC transports must retreat or be destroyed by the Japanese sub. (Edit: And yes, the ANZAC fighter is destroyed.)
The Pripet Martian told you true.
A very unlucky battle there for the attackers. 2x2s + 1x0 were defeated by 2x1s with one defending sub remaining! I assume this is from a real game.
The transports aren’t allowed to unload in NCM either. This will almost certainly mean the destruction of the transports on Japan’s next turn, probably by the remaining sub.
Unless a CV is one space from SZ35, or can be moved there, the ANZAC fighter is lost. If ANZAC have a CV e.g. in SZ62 it MUST move.
I think that’s all.
Interesting scenario. I agree with @The-Pripet-Martian
@8thGuards said in Complicated battle (scramble, kamikaze, surprise strike, amphibious assault):
Japan has 2 SS in the sea zone, decides to use its kamikazes against the ANZAC surface fleet and scrambles the FTR and TAC that are on the Philippines to force a sea combat (otherwise it would have been an amphibious assault without sea combat).
One small correction though:
You don’t need the FTR to scramble to be able to fire Kamikaze strikes on an amphibious assault. The rules clearly state you can simply do so without the need of trigger a ‘normal’ sea combat first.
The Japanese player has the ability to make
a special defensive strike against Allied
surface warships. Japan is allowed to make
6 kamikaze strikes during the game. These
strikes can be made only in sea zones that
contain the Kamikaze symbol: those surrounding Japan,
Okinawa, Iwo Jima, Formosa, Marianas, and Philippines.
If an Allied player attacks Japanese units in or declares an
amphibious assault from one of these sea zones, the Japanese
player can announce at the beginning of this phase that he or
she intends to launch one or more kamikaze strikes in that sea
zone. They are resolved before any combat begins.
And
A kamikaze strike prevents offshore
bombardment supporting an amphibious assault in that
sea zone, whether or not the strike is successful
(this is at the top of page 16 of the Pacific 1940 rule book)
I think the rules here are quite clear. but first, some clarifications:
I officially apologize for necromancing an old thread.
Since defender subs and transports can be engaged or ignored at attackers discretion, I assume the scramble is to activate the subs.
Now that defending aircraft gone, wouldn’t that rule reactivate?
@Mr-Kell said in Complicated battle (scramble, kamikaze, surprise strike, amphibious assault):
I officially apologize for necromancing an old thread.
Since defender subs and transports can be engaged or ignored at attackers discretion, I assume the scramble is to activate the subs.
Now that defending aircraft gone, wouldn’t that rule reactivate?
No it doesn’t. Why would it?
@simon33
I found it.
Thanks so much for the reference.
