@zlefin it will likely be a day or two before I can get to my next turn
2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece 1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria 1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 81 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland Italians take British Somaliland from British Combat - Italians Battle in 81 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber British defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the British lost in 81 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Algeria Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Algeria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Algeria Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Tunisia Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in Greece Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Battle in 93 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the French lost in 93 Sea Zone Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 93 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 cruiser in 93 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the French lost in 93 Sea Zone Italians win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French 1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland 1 bomber moved from 81 Sea Zone to Italian Somaliland 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians : -4.17 French : -1.00 Neutral_Allies : -0.67Territory Summary for Italians :
British Somaliland : 1 flag, 1 infantry Alexandria : 1 flag, 1 infantry Algeria : 1 flag, 1 artillery Southern France : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Tunisia : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Northern Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 factory_major and 4 infantry Italian Somaliland : 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 2 infantry 94 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport 93 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Greece : 1 flag, 2 armour and 1 infantry 97 Sea Zone : 1 transport Yugoslavia : 1 aaGunProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 39 / 68 Russians : 37 / 37 Japanese : 29 / 42 Americans : 52 / 52 Chinese : 9 / 12 British : 30 / 37 UK_Pacific : 17 / 17 Italians : 17 / 17 ANZAC : 10 / 10 French : 10 / 0 Dutch : 11 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0 Neutral_True : 18 / 0 -
TripleA Turn Summary: French round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria Combat - ANZAC Battle in Alexandria ANZAC attack with 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Alexandria, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria ANZAC win, taking Alexandria from Italians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java ANZAC take Java from Dutch 1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Java 1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java 2 aaGuns moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 infantry placed in New South Wales 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan 1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa 1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Iceland Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians : -1,00 ANZAC : 0,00 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Normandy BordeauxCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@oysteilo scramble from GIB?
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@666 full scramble. Looks like i messed this up :(
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@oysteilo said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 full scramble. Looks like i messed this up :(
the dice gods get their say first…I decided to be more aggressive this game.
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@666 said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@oysteilo said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 full scramble. Looks like i messed this up :(
the dice gods get their say first…I decided to be more aggressive this game.
and the dice gods say FU to me…LOL, couldn’t hit with a 3 or a 4…well my 90% wasn’t so good now was it…I think I may resign and not carry this dicing into next year…stay tuned. Office party today.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - Germans British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 92 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the British Submerged Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 7.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.83 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 cruisers owned by the British, 3 fighters owned by the Germans, 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -40 Casualties for Germans: 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 aaGuns moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 6 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 5 fighters placed in Western Germany 3 infantry placed in France 2 infantry placed in Germany 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : -4.50 British : 3.17 French : 1.00Territory Summary for Germans :
Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry France : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry Western Germany : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 5 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Romania : 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry Poland : 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 4 artilleries and 24 infantry Germany : 1 factory_major and 2 infantry 113 Sea Zone : 1 submarine 106 Sea Zone : 1 flag Bulgaria : 1 flag 101 Sea Zone : 1 submarine 114 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 6 armour and 3 mech_infantrys Finland : 1 flag, 5 infantryProduction/PUs Summary :
Germans : 41 / 51 Russians : 37 / 37 Japanese : 29 / 42 Americans : 52 / 52 Chinese : 9 / 12 British : 30 / 37 UK_Pacific : 17 / 17 Italians : 17 / 17 ANZAC : 14 / 14 French : 8 / 0 Dutch : 7 / 0 Mongolians : 0 / 0 Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0 Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0 Neutral_True : 18 / 0Dice Statistics:
Total 1 was rolled 42 times 2 was rolled 41 times 3 was rolled 39 times 4 was rolled 47 times 5 was rolled 43 times 6 was rolled 49 times Average roll : 3.594 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.275 Standard Deviation : 0.524 Total rolls : 261 Null / Other 2 was rolled 1 times 6 was rolled 1 times Average roll : 4.000 Median : 4.000 Variance : 1.333 Standard Deviation : 1.155 Total rolls : 2 Germans Combat 1 was rolled 14 times 2 was rolled 12 times 3 was rolled 19 times 4 was rolled 19 times 5 was rolled 21 times 6 was rolled 22 times Average roll : 3.813 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.744 Standard Deviation : 0.862 Total rolls : 107 British Combat 1 was rolled 10 times 2 was rolled 4 times 4 was rolled 5 times 5 was rolled 4 times 6 was rolled 1 times Average roll : 2.667 Median : 2.000 Variance : 2.696 Standard Deviation : 1.642 Total rolls : 24 Italians Combat 1 was rolled 6 times 2 was rolled 4 times 3 was rolled 8 times 4 was rolled 10 times 5 was rolled 6 times 6 was rolled 7 times Average roll : 3.659 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.521 Standard Deviation : 0.722 Total rolls : 41 French Combat 1 was rolled 2 times 2 was rolled 7 times 3 was rolled 4 times 4 was rolled 7 times 5 was rolled 3 times 6 was rolled 3 times Average roll : 3.423 Median : 3.500 Variance : 0.933 Standard Deviation : 0.966 Total rolls : 26 ANZAC Combat 1 was rolled 1 times 2 was rolled 1 times 3 was rolled 1 times 4 was rolled 1 times 5 was rolled 2 times Average roll : 3.333 Median : 3.500 Variance : 0.400 Standard Deviation : 0.632 Total rolls : 6 Neutral_Allies Combat 1 was rolled 1 times 2 was rolled 4 times 3 was rolled 2 times 4 was rolled 1 times 5 was rolled 2 times 6 was rolled 3 times Average roll : 3.615 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.569 Standard Deviation : 0.755 Total rolls : 13 Chinese Combat 1 was rolled 3 times 2 was rolled 2 times 3 was rolled 1 times 4 was rolled 2 times 5 was rolled 2 times 6 was rolled 6 times Average roll : 4.000 Median : 4.500 Variance : 1.022 Standard Deviation : 1.011 Total rolls : 16 Japanese Combat 1 was rolled 5 times 2 was rolled 6 times 3 was rolled 4 times 4 was rolled 2 times 5 was rolled 3 times 6 was rolled 6 times Average roll : 3.385 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.533 Standard Deviation : 0.730 Total rolls : 26 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux Combat - Germans British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 92 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the British Submerged Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 7.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.83 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 2 cruisers owned by the British, 3 fighters owned by the Germans, 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 1 carrier owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 92 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in 92 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -40 Casualties for Germans: 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 aaGuns moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 6 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 5 fighters placed in Western Germany 3 infantry placed in France 2 infantry placed in Germany 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : -4.50 British : 3.17 French : 1.00 -
@666 said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@oysteilo said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 full scramble. Looks like i messed this up :(
the dice gods get their say first…I decided to be more aggressive this game.
and the dice gods say FU to me…LOL, couldn’t hit with a 3 or a 4…well my 90% wasn’t so good now was it…I think I may resign and not carry this dicing into next year…stay tuned. Office party today.
All right. At least enjoy your office party. I must admit i had overlooked/not really considered this an option. I will put this on hold for now
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@666 said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@oysteilo said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 full scramble. Looks like i messed this up :(
the dice gods get their say first…I decided to be more aggressive this game.
Hi Jim,
I took a look at the map and I can tell you, this kind of aggressiveness is not beneficial for the Axis for 2 reasons:
- 90% odds is a deceptive number. I would see the battle outcome as follows
From bottom to top percentiles:
1-10: Total fail, Allies win
11-30: Phyrric victory. Axis may have won this battle but the Luftwaffe is crippled. This causes way more trouble than the fleet in 92 could have caused.
31-70: Well, not sure who is better now. You may have eliminated a threat but lost plenty of planes. You were supposed to by 15+ fast movers that march towards Moscow and you bought zero.
71-100: That went well, the Axis are ahead now.
If you look at the outcomes like this, you are a 2 to 1 underdog to come out ahead after this attack. In addition, the top and bottom 30% are not equal. Top 30 give you an edge but there is LOTS to do still, bottom 30% and you are wrecked.
- The battle did not give you major strategic gains even if you won. You always have to consider the strategic implications this battle could have. You can take a look at my 2nd game I played vs Simon this year. I made the same attack at 92, too but with the following differences.
- I had 2 subs in 91 that could attack
- Odds were 100%
- Winning the battle would give my Gib AND Egypt.
–> I went for it, lost 1 plane more than I should have, got Gib AND Egypt and Simon resigned in turn 2
The problem here, in your game, was: There weren’t any major strategic gains on the table.
You would have neither gotten Gob nor Egypt with that move and that makes a HUGE difference.
IF you go for such a risky battle, the reward must be more than just killing the fleet. If it is not, the attack is not a good idea.Bottom line: I would say you can be happy that MARTI made it easy for you. Axis are screwed now and you can resign. Worse outcome would have been if you would have hit in round 3 in that battle. Then you would have won with lousy bomber remaining and would have fought a long uphill battle that would have ended in defeat after a long misery.
- 90% odds is a deceptive number. I would see the battle outcome as follows
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And btw: DON’T put your boats in 114 after G1 but in 113. In this case, UK would not have been in the position to make such a greedy move in UK1, as a G2 sea lion with 1 TT would be on the table in that case, plus a G3 sealion would have become a bigger threat, too.
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@JDOW said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
And btw: DON’T put your boats in 114 after G1 but in 113. In this case, UK would not have been in the position to make such a greedy move in UK1, as a G2 sea lion with 1 TT would be on the table in that case, plus a G3 sealion would have become a bigger threat, too.
What about if you’re intending a G2 DOW on USSR? 114 prevents blockers in the Baltic. I personally like 112 if at all possible because you can also go over the top.
I will correct one minor point. I conceded our game after G3. So not a turn 2 concede. Thankfully.
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114, sorry
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Hmm, Italian planes are always an option I suppose but I don’t like it much when a BB can absorb the potential hit.
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I prefer a g2 Dow against Russia but I don‘t mind blockers. Russia can defend Novo anyway against a possible amphibious invasion so the Russian boats don‘t bother me.
In fact, I used to put the tt in 114, too back then just to bring to extra inf to Poland.
In general, this is not too crucial. Uk can have. Greedy UK1 if they like. Not the end of the world.
And sorry re turn 2/3 Simon: but the game was basically over after turn 2 as losing both, Gib and Egypt was inevitable.
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@JDOW said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
And sorry re turn 2/3 Simon: but the game was basically over after turn 2 as losing both, Gib and Egypt was inevitable.
True enough.
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@JDOW said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@oysteilo said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
@666 full scramble. Looks like i messed this up :(
the dice gods get their say first…I decided to be more aggressive this game.
Hi Jim,
I took a look at the map and I can tell you, this kind of aggressiveness is not beneficial for the Axis for 2 reasons:
- 90% odds is a deceptive number. I would see the battle outcome as follows
From bottom to top percentiles:
1-10: Total fail, Allies win
11-30: Phyrric victory. Axis may have won this battle but the Luftwaffe is crippled. This causes way more trouble than the fleet in 92 could have caused.
31-70: Well, not sure who is better now. You may have eliminated a threat but lost plenty of planes. You were supposed to by 15+ fast movers that march towards Moscow and you bought zero.
71-100: That went well, the Axis are ahead now.
If you look at the outcomes like this, you are a 2 to 1 underdog to come out ahead after this attack. In addition, the top and bottom 30% are not equal. Top 30 give you an edge but there is LOTS to do still, bottom 30% and you are wrecked.
- The battle did not give you major strategic gains even if you won. You always have to consider the strategic implications this battle could have. You can take a look at my 2nd game I played vs Simon this year. I made the same attack at 92, too but with the following differences.
- I had 2 subs in 91 that could attack
- Odds were 100%
- Winning the battle would give my Gib AND Egypt.
–> I went for it, lost 1 plane more than I should have, got Gib AND Egypt and Simon resigned in turn 2
The problem here, in your game, was: There weren’t any major strategic gains on the table.
You would have neither gotten Gob nor Egypt with that move and that makes a HUGE difference.
IF you go for such a risky battle, the reward must be more than just killing the fleet. If it is not, the attack is not a good idea.Bottom line: I would say you can be happy that MARTI made it easy for you. Axis are screwed now and you can resign. Worse outcome would have been if you would have hit in round 3 in that battle. Then you would have won with lousy bomber remaining and would have fought a long uphill battle that would have ended in defeat after a long misery.
good analysis…you take this way deeper and with much more thought than I do and this is why you have such a consistently strong record…You are right. I would have been happy with killing his fleet for the loss of 6 fighters which I purchased to replace the ones I expected to lose. losing all aircraft and not even taking out the Brit trn was more than I could bare…appreciate your analysis
- 90% odds is a deceptive number. I would see the battle outcome as follows
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@JDOW said in 2020 BM3 - Oystello (allies +6) v 666:
And btw: DON’T put your boats in 114 after G1 but in 113. In this case, UK would not have been in the position to make such a greedy move in UK1, as a G2 sea lion with 1 TT would be on the table in that case, plus a G3 sealion would have become a bigger threat, too.
this makes sense as well, recently I have been bringing two extra G inf onto the R border for a G2 attack into Russia but the G2/G3 sea lion threat might be better at keeping the UK spread out.
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