18L G40 LL Patryn (Axis) vs max334(Allies) +30

[max334]

@Patryn:

Are you asking to back up the full round to right after Round 3 Japan?    I normally would not mind a small backup, but a ton of dice have been rolled in that time on the other side of the map so I am not sure how to fairly address those.   Let me know what you propose there.

Also I wouldn’t mind just playing another game with the same bid if you like.  We are allowed to play up to 3 league games against the same opponent.

I dont really want to post another loss due to my ignorance. Ineptitude yes, ignorance no. If you’re agreeable, lets restart from US round 3. On the European side, if you pursue the same strategy, things shouldn’t turn out much different seeing how we are playing low luck. If you dont want to do that, allow me to edit the US fleet and start from Japan 4. 
Also, whats the deal with Magnolia? I thought for sure they would join me if you attacked Amur.

[Patryn]

@max334:

@Patryn:

Are you asking to back up the full round to right after Round 3 Japan?    I normally would not mind a small backup, but a ton of dice have been rolled in that time on the other side of the map so I am not sure how to fairly address those.   Let me know what you propose there.

Also I wouldn’t mind just playing another game with the same bid if you like.  We are allowed to play up to 3 league games against the same opponent.

I dont really want to post another loss due to my ignorance. Ineptitude yes, ignorance no. If you’re agreeable, lets restart from US round 3. On the European side, if you pursue the same strategy, things shouldn’t turn out much different seeing how we are playing low luck. If you dont want to do that, allow me to edit the US fleet and start from Japan 4. 
Also, whats the deal with Magnolia? I thought for sure they would join me if you attacked Amur.

I think that there were fights there like the 1/3rd shot for your destroyer missing that I prefer not to lose navy or air for.  How about this.  If you can reasonably edit the before Japan 4 turn to what the US would have been, I will take a look and decide?  I don’t think this has ever been asked for in a League game that I remember.

Keep in mind also that neither of us is making it to the finals of the League, so this is just playing for fun with an added aspect of people not flaking out. I would not take losses very seriously and just treat them as learning experiences for tricks or things not to do.

Re Mongolia - I believe they should join Russia unless you happened to have stepped into one of the Chinese territories on the other side bordering Mongolia - not totally sure.

[max334]

…actually i imagined myself being the dark horse that makes it to the league championships… So you don’t think I’m that good??? One little mistake…

[max334]

…yes, I did step into a bordering Chinese territory, so that’s what changes things? I am allowed to step into Korea after the US captures them, but Russia can not attack them, is that correct?

[Patryn]

Yes I beleive that is correct regarding Korea.  I did not say that you were not that good.  I was only saying that based on the fact that if you wanted to qualify for the championships, you would only be playing tier e and m players.  Even a win against a tier 3 is worth less than a loss against a master level.  Therefore based on our previous games, it is highly likely we are not making the championships.  Not an indictment of skill per se.  I haven’t seen enough of your game to be sure, though I will say that the top players I have played have never asked for takebacks of this magnitude or even smaller ones that I recall.

[max334]

Lol… I was trying to be funny. I know I’m not that good, not yet anyway…  :)  I just kind of hate making big mistakes and just kind of want to pretend like it never happened. I just recently made it on the board as a league player, so i was being kind of prideful. Thanks for putting up with my antiques. Can you tell me how to copy the game thread so i can post the loss?

[max334]

@max334:

Lol… I was trying to be funny. I know I’m not that good, not yet anyway…  :)  I just kind of hate making big mistakes and just kind of want to pretend like it never happened. I just recently made it on the board as a league player, so i was being kind of prideful. Thanks for putting up with my antiques. Can you tell me how to copy the game thread so i can post the loss?

“antics”…not antiques lol

[Patryn]

Yup it was fun and definitely if you want to play again League or not, I am up for it.
Here’s the link to the thread: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=42674.0

[max334]

What does 18L mean

[Patryn]

@max334:

What does 18L mean

2018 League Global 40 Low Luck was the abbreviations I used in the title.

[max334]

Ty. But just so i understand your decision not to restart from J3, it was because it was a league game and you had never done that before. Is that right?

[Patryn]

In general, I don’t like to reset to earlier, anytime dice have been rolled.  I am more than happy to allow edits that are on the same turn, but I didn’t see an easy way for us to go back that far and get the same results of some of the other battles.

[max334]

oh, because of the dd… we would easily fix that, just edit and puff he’s gone. I posted the loss, not sure I did it right

[Patryn]

I believe the post was fine.  As to the league game part - yeah pretty sure it’s not in the rules to reset that far back, however, it’s always at your opponent’s discretion so I suppose it would have been possible.  That’s why I said if you wanted to edit the state of the board after R4 to what you think the US should have looked like I probably would have continued though I wasn’t sure if you were still taking Korea and having Russia do the same actions.

[max334]

how did you get PATRON 2016 & 2018 under your name

[Patryn]

Donate on the support drive on the right :)

[max334]

Ready to play another? I’d like to try Axis but not sure how much of a bid to give you.

[Patryn]

If it’s low luck we can just use the same bid.  I think anything under 30 for low luck gives Axis a pretty big advantage.

[max334]

@Patryn:

Yes I beleive that is correct regarding Korea.  I did not say that you were not that good.  I was only saying that based on the fact that if you wanted to qualify for the championships, you would only be playing tier e and m players.  Even a win against a tier 3 is worth less than a loss against a master level.  Therefore based on our previous games, it is highly likely we are not making the championships.  Not an indictment of skill per se.  I haven�t seen enough of your game to be sure, though I will say that the top players I have played have never asked for takebacks of this magnitude or even smaller ones that I recall.

Maybe in 2019 I can get to the big league. Can you tell me how the tiers work? Is e the highest and what is e short for?

[Patryn]

From the League rules: E is for elite :)

3 - Scoring/Playoffs

3a - Each player will belong to 1 of 5 tiers based on their 2017 league year game results, after completing 3 games.  Cutoffs for tiers will be at 5.50 PPG for tier M (Master); 4.50 for tier E (Elite); 3.50 for tier 1; and 2.50 for tier 2.
Players will be awarded points as follows:
Win over tier M, E, 1, 2, 3 earn 8, 7, 6, 5, 4 points, respectively
Lose to tier M, E, 1, 2, 3 earn 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 points, respectively
Point totals are divided by # of games played to arrive at PPG (Points per game)