A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
Russian non combat moves while neutral
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need clarification… is Russia allowed to move into the middle east territories to activate them for the allies when not at war? Thank you!
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need clarification… is Russia allowed to move into the middle east territories to activate them for the allies when not at war? Thank you!
No. Russia needs to be at war with a Western Axis power in order to occupy NW Persia or attack Iraq or Finland.
Use the stickied 2nd edition Q&A thread for the quickest answer. Sometimes you can find previous answers by search querying that thread.
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Could the U.S.S.R invade Turkey? How would such a move change the War?
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Yes, they could declare war on the neutrals. That would turn all other True Neutrals pro-Axis. Early in the game, this would probably turn out poorly for the Allies.
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The rules specifically prohibit Russian forces from leaving Russia before Germany/Italy have declared war on Russia.
Marsh
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@ABWorsham:
Could the U.S.S.R invade Turkey? How would such a move change the War?
No.
@rulebook:
While a power remains neutral, it operates
under even tighter restrictions. A neutral power
can’t move land or air units into or through neutral
territories. -
Yes, they could declare war on the neutrals.
No, you never declare war on neutrals.
@rulebook:
Unlike powers, war is never declared on neutral territories - they are simply attacked.
However, as posted above, special restrictions apply.
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I stand corrected. However, they (USSR) could declare war upon Japan and then attack a neutral such as Turkey, right?
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I stand corrected. However, they (USSR) could declare war upon Japan and then attack a neutral such as Turkey, right?
No again, sorry:
@rulebook:
Due to its separate treaties with Germany and Japan, the Soviet Union is in a unique position in its relationship with the
Axis powers. As a result, if the Soviet Union is at war with Axis powers on only one map, it is still under the restrictions
of being a neutral power (see “Powers Not at War with One Another,” page 15) on the other map, and Axis powers on
the other map are also still under those restrictions regarding the Soviet Union on both maps. For example, a state of
war with only Japan lifts the neutrality restrictions from the Soviet Union on the Pacific map only, and allows Japanese
units to attack or fly over Soviet-controlled territories on either map. However, the Soviet Union is still restricted on
the Europe map, …
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