War has been declared

[FMErwinRommel]

Are the French retracing their retreat from Borodino in Russia?

[Desert_Admiral]

The French got fed up being persecuted by the Nazi’s.  So they are going to go persecute Hitler! (and then probably get persecuted by Stalin after he takes over Europe, lol)

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 20

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            10 infantry moved from France to Southern France
            3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Greater Southern Germany
            1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Southern Italy to Greater Southern Germany
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Slovakia Hungary
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 9 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 9 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 :  0/10 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 7 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 :  1/8 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Slovakia Hungary
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 4 :  1/7 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 4 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Slovakia Hungary
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 5 :  0/5 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 5 :  3/4 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Germany
                Russians win with 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
                Casualties for Germans: 8 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns
            Battle in Southern France
                Germans attack with 3 artilleries and 14 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 14 infantry in Southern France, round 2 :  5/17 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Southern France, round 2 :  4/8 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Germans, 4 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Southern France
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 10 infantry in Southern France, round 3 :  2/13 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Southern France
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 9 infantry in Southern France, round 4 :  3/12 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Southern France, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Southern France
                Germans win, taking Southern France from Americans with 3 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Battle in Greater Southern Germany
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Greater Southern Germany, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Greater Southern Germany
                Germans win, taking Greater Southern Germany from Russians with 1 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs

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[FMErwinRommel]

If this had been a more normal game, Brit would not have been able to put all its builds against India, nor the U.S. in the Pacific.  I might have had a chance, but time is running out.  One turn I didn’t build troops in W. India or build replacement tt’s in the Pacific, in order to build enough ships to survive the trip to Australia.  But this delayed my retaking Celeb, and now India is at risk, and I can’t safely bring loaded tt’s to the fleet in time.  This turn, I want to at least have the decisive naval battle that Japan craved, but it comes too late to win the game in the Pacific, unless I have spectacular dice in the naval battle and in India.  I searched the forum for Japan strategies, but the only one was a windy discussion of DOW J1 vs J2.  There was no mid-game strategy or tactics or play by play for a Pacific win.  I took out China so fast, that I never built a second I.C. there.  Malaya would have been nice as a second I.C. to threaten Aust., but the Allies could invade it in one turn from their big fleet parked in sz54.  Hong Kong might have worked, but it’s too late for that now.

[Gargantua]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 20

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 armour, 2 factory_minors and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            3 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Germany
            3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Germany
            1 artillery moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
            3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Germany
                Russians attack with 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major and 9 infantry
                    AA fire in Germany : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Germany
                    Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Germany, round 2 : 4/16 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Germany, round 3 : 7/12 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Russians roll dice for 8 armour in Germany, round 4 : 2/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Germany, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Russians captures 26PUs while taking Germans capital
                Russians converts factory_major into different units
                Russians win, taking Germany from Germans with 8 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -23
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Romania
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            1 factory_minor placed in Poland
            Russians undo move 1.
            1 factory_minor placed in Yugoslavia
            3 armour placed in Ukraine
            3 armour placed in Novgorod
            1 fighter placed in Russia
            1 factory_minor placed in Caucasus

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 53 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs
            Objective Russians 3 Berlin: Russians met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 94 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 18 PUs; end with 112 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 1.33
    Russians : -4.67
    AA fire in Germany : : 0.50

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[Gargantua]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 20

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 armour, 2 factory_minors and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            3 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Germany
            3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Germany
            1 artillery moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
            3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Germany
                Russians attack with 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major and 9 infantry
                    AA fire in Germany : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Germany
                    Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Germany, round 2 : 4/16 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Germany, round 3 : 7/12 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Russians roll dice for 8 armour in Germany, round 4 : 2/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Germany, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Russians captures 26PUs while taking Germans capital
                Russians converts factory_major into different units
                Russians win, taking Germany from Germans with 8 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -23
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Romania
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            1 factory_minor placed in Poland
            Russians undo move 1.
            1 factory_minor placed in Yugoslavia
            3 armour placed in Ukraine
            3 armour placed in Novgorod
            1 fighter placed in Russia
            1 factory_minor placed in Caucasus

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 53 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs
            Objective Russians 3 Berlin: Russians met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 94 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 18 PUs; end with 112 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Caucasus: 1 factory_minor
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Romania: 1 factory_minor
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 1.33
    Russians : -4.67
    AA fire in Germany : : 0.50

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[Gargantua]

Speaking of abnormal games…

I wonder what would have if right now, the russians switched sides to join the Axis entente with Italy and Japan; and German remnant forces joined the Allies!

Would be exciting for sure!

[dawgoneit]

what ever.
are we done yet!

[FMErwinRommel]

The IJN will strike a powerful blow against the U.S. and ANZ this turn.  Let’s see what happens.

[Desert_Admiral]

Historically it would be interesting to see what Stalin would’ve done.  After all he did lie to Churchill and Roosevelt about not pushing into Berlin.  There wasn’t much love lost between Churchill and Stalin and Churchill wanted the war to continue, this time after USSR.

[FMErwinRommel]

I’m game to try Garg’s suggestion, as a separate continuum (Back to the Future).  Since it’s so abrupt, the allies would be caught short footed.  It would be a crazy game.  How would you modify the game’s underlying politics to override the existing alliances?

But first, I want to play the current game out for a short while to see how close I could get to a Pacific victory.

[FMErwinRommel]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 20

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese repair damage of 4x harbour; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 70 PUs;
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 49 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 46 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 destroyers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 54 Sea Zone
            4 bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to 54 Sea Zone

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[FMErwinRommel]

S.A. & D.A.:  scramble ANZ and U.S. ftrs in Queensland against full Japan fleet?  I will roll dice after your scramble orders so you will know how many hits for your OOL.

[Desert_Admiral]

@FMErwinRommel:

I’m game to try Garg’s suggestion, as a separate continuum (Back to the Future).  Since it’s so abrupt, the allies would be caught short footed.  It would be a crazy game.  How would you modify the game’s underlying politics to override the existing alliances?

But first, I want to play the current game out for a short while to see how close I could get to a Pacific victory.

I’m not in.

[Desert_Admiral]

@FMErwinRommel:

S.A. & D.A.:  scramble ANZ and U.S. ftrs in Queensland against full Japan fleet?  I will roll dice after your scramble orders so you will know how many hits for your OOL.

Scramble our planes.

[FMErwinRommel]

Only 10 hits on the allies out of attack of 35 units with a power of 102.  What is your OOL?

[FMErwinRommel]

1 of 13 dd’s and subs hit; 4 of 12 cr & ftrs hit; 5 of 10 bombers,TB & BBs hit.  102 power /6 should = 17, not 10 hits.

[suprise attack]

Tip the CV’s and the BB’s then the ss and 1 dd

[FMErwinRommel]

tip 4 cv, 2 bb and sink the sub, that leaves 3 hits, 3 dd’s not 1, which country?

[FMErwinRommel]

I chose 3 dd’s, leaving 1 ANZ and 1 U.S.  Round 2: 15 hits  Need new OOL.