Tirano (X) Vs. Ichabod (L+17)

[Tirano]

Look at round 9, You retook the territory Chahar from Japan, a territory that borders Mongolia.  As per page 39 of the Pacific Rule Book, “This occurs regardless the state of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan at the time of the attack, with one exception: If the Soviet Union attacks Korea or any Japan-controlled territory bordering these [Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and Buyant-Uhaa] Mongolian territories while Mongolia is still strict neutral.”

It appears to me you broke the pact, meaning they will remain strict neutral until such a time as one of us directly attacks them, turning them and all other strict neutrals into Pro-Allies/Axis.

If I somehow misinterpreted that let me know, for now I wont edit it in, though.

Similarly no hard feeling, we play a game with a 40 page rule book, no surprise that occasionally we mess up a rule :)

[Tirano]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 bombers and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                  Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Evenkiyskiy
                  Germans take Urals from Russians
                  Germans take Evenkiyskiy from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
                  Germans take Ukraine from Russians

Combat - Germans

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            9 artilleries moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Finland
            3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            4 bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            4 submarines placed in 113 Sea Zone
            2 bombers placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Ichabod]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 5 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
                  Russians take Archangel from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
                  Russians take Nenetsia from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
                  Russians take Urals from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
            2 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
            2 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                  Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            3 fighters moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine

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[Ichabod]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 5 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
                  Russians take Archangel from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
                  Russians take Nenetsia from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
                  Russians take Urals from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
            2 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
            2 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                  Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            3 fighters moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Belarus from Italians to Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 fighters moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Samara to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour, 5 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.33
    Russians : 1.50

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[Ichabod]

@Tirano:

Look at round 9, You retook the territory Chahar from Japan, a territory that borders Mongolia.  As per page 39 of the Pacific Rule Book, “This occurs regardless the state of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan at the time of the attack, with one exception: If the Soviet Union attacks Korea or any Japan-controlled territory bordering these [Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and Buyant-Uhaa] Mongolian territories while Mongolia is still strict neutral.”

It appears to me you broke the pact, meaning they will remain strict neutral until such a time as one of us directly attacks them, turning them and all other strict neutrals into Pro-Allies/Axis.

If I somehow misinterpreted that let me know, for now I wont edit it in, though.

Similarly no hard feeling, we play a game with a 40 page rule book, no surprise that occasionally we mess up a rule :)

You are correct  :-D

If I realized you were referring to Chahar, I would not have mentioned it the 2nd time. I misinterpreted comments about Russia declaring war on Japan first.

I made a really awful blunder by Russia going into Chahar. Wish I didn’t do that.

[Tirano]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 4 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Siberia
                  Japanese take Siberia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Manchuria to Sakha
                  Japanese take Sakha from Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Japan to 44 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 fighter moved from Burma to India
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to India
            2 bombers moved from Burma to India

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 35 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in India, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British lost in India
                Japanese captures 5PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
                Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Hunan to Burma
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            3 armour moved from French Indo China to Burma
            3 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Szechwan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Suiyuyan to Szechwan
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from India to Burma
            2 bombers moved from India to Burma
            1 bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 4 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0.17
    UK_Pacific : -0.67
    Japanese : 0.50

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[Ichabod]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 bomber and 9 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            3 destroyers moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            4 armour, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Caucasus

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[Ichabod]

You have a scramble option for SZ 112?

[Tirano]

No thanks.  If the British would like to come on through though they will scramble.

[Ichabod]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 9 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 9 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Ichabod]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Germany
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 105 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 125 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Norway to 105 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 12 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 16 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers moved from West India to India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to India
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk

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[Ichabod]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 bomber and 9 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            3 destroyers moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            4 armour, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Caucasus

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Denmark
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 9 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 16 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Denmark from Germans with 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Germany
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 9 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 factory_major and 9 mech_infantrys
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 9 fighters in Germany, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 9 mech_infantrys in Germany, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Americans and 4 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 6 fighters in Germany, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 5 mech_infantrys in Germany, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans and 5 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Americans win with 1 bomber and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Germans: 9 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Americans: 4 fighters

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber and 5 fighters moved from Germany to Norway
            9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Iceland to 123 Sea Zone
            9 infantry moved from Iceland to 123 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 9 infantry and 5 transports moved from 123 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 102 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            2 infantry placed in Western United States
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Norway
            1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Iraq
            1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            5 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 9 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 9 PUs

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Germany
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 105 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 125 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Norway to 105 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 12 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 16 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers moved from West India to India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to India
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk

Combat - British
            Battle in Germany
                British captures 54PUs while taking Germans capital
                British converts factory_major into different units
            Battle in 105 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Italians defend with 2 submarines
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 105 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    2 submarines owned by the Italians lost in 105 Sea Zone
                British win, taking Germany from Germans, taking 105 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Italians: 2 submarines
            Battle in India
                British attack with 3 armour, 12 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 16 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                    British roll dice for 3 armour, 12 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 16 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in India, round 2 : 11/42 hits, 14.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 infantry in India, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in India
                British win, taking India from Japanese with 3 armour, 12 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 15 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            3 aaGuns moved from West India to India
            1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from India to West India
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            4 fighters moved from 105 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 transport placed in 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in United Kingdom
            1 airfield placed in Eire
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Eire: 1 airfield
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Iceland: 1 harbour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Persia

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 92 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
    British : -3.17
    Italians : -0.33
    Americans : -0.33
    Japanese : 0.67

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[Ichabod]

I intended to buy a naval base for Iceland, but didn’t realize until I was placing units that I accidentally selected an air base. I changed it via edit.

If you want it changed, than I will place the airbase at Gibraltar.

[Ichabod]

@Tirano:

No thanks.  If the British would like to come on through though they will scramble.

Sorry, but the naval base on Norway permitted the UK boat to travel to SZ 114; out of range of any scramble option.

[Tirano]

Very well done, I did not foresee that coming.  Seeing as Japan (while in a solid position) cannot reasonably win the game on its next turn, that will be a win for you.  As for the Iraq strategy, It really seemed inconsequential to me. From my perspective I threw away my real chance on the turn that I captured Norway with those great dice.  I didnt see your reinforcements in Iceland and so didn’t prepare for a second assault with mechs.  Time that was wasted and left me permanently behind the 8 ball.  You outplayed me for sure, but I don’t think the Us in Iraq is why.  Great Game :)

[Ichabod]

Cool. Agree on your comments about the US in Iraq having minimal effect, in fact in this game, I think it slowed me down and tied up resources. My builds were going to enter into China to create another front since I didn’t need them to help Russia anymore. China had 9 IPCs saved for the turn that the US planted a stack. But another China front would really have been a side show and just another nail in the coffin.

I think the US in Iraq thing would be better served if doing a Kill Japan First approach. The US still has to fly several planes and initially get into position to persuade Germany from trying to come down. So, in the beginning it might help Russia keep Germany out of Stalingrad.

My theory is that a US in Iraq factory would help give the UK more beef to help hold the Middle East which is their most important area to defend after Cairo. The UK would be more freed up to do whatever is best to help Russia while the US mostly spends against Japan.

As far as Japan goes in our game, Japan is about to permanently lose India. 3 Anzac fighters + 1 French infantry (viva la France) and Japan’s odds are like 10-14% chances…India will be defended; and the transports off of French Indo China would be blocked from the money islands next turn. Then the UK gets to build on India and the UK has money to buy 3 fighters on Perisa to add to the air force that will land on India.

[Ichabod]

It was a fun game…and there was a moment that I thought you were going to win it.

[Tirano]

@Ichabod:

It was a fun game…and there was a moment that I thought you were going to win it.

Much agreed on all your comments.  I think having the US in the middle east is very great, but I am much more inclined to try it with a neutral crush and have them set up in Saudi Arabia.  Which from my experience only happens in the late game or where you have some how rules. It might be nice to try a Saudi IC in a game where you are doing a Spanish beachhead.  That is something that works best in a total domination type game in my opinion.

I remember us talking about a league match and I have had a few games end (others near ending) but would prefer another casual over league to be honest.  I would be interested in some experimental strats.  If you are up for that let me know and we can just keep using this thread and start a new.

[Ichabod]

We could keep using this thread and switch sides. What kind of experimental game would you want to try? Sometimes I want to do stuff with the axis like play the med if the UK fails in a UK 1 attack…ect. I wouldn’t want to be restricted in that type scenario.

Would you like to try the allies’ neutral crush thing along with Spanish beachhead? I tried a neutral crush against simon 33. His Japan became a super monster. The US couldn’t sustain both theaters. He is a great axis defense player. He gets to economic stability with europe and pacific axis…than just defends until he has overwhelming odds everywhere. And I mean everywhere. It’s incredible. Have you played him?

Take a 17 bid?

I still think the US in Iraq thing has merit to some degree; but only in a J1 DOW game. I probably didn’t need to spend anymore in the factory once it was apparent I didn’t need it. Think of it as insurance.

[Tirano]

I will have to play him, i have yet to do so.  I recently tried two games where I focused as Germany pretty heavily in the med (both games no taranto due to great G1).  I would be happy to try some Neutral crush game-play.  The way I am wanting to try it, would you mind doing a J3 or J4?  I know for Iraq we did a J1, but iI would like to try a later Dow by Japan if that is good with you.

As for bid, I can make 17 work (I know it is what I gave you this game) but since this a friendly would you mind going to 19?  Wanting to try a new bid placement (to me) and I don’t think 19 is unreasonably high.  I will make 17 work however if you insist.

If a bid of 19 then: Sub in 91 Sub in 98 and Trans in 71.

If a bid of 17 then: Sub in 91 Sub in 98 and $5 to England (Mech in Egypt if you don’t play where you can save IPC from bid)