BSD (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis+3) BM3 Game IV

[BSD]

@simon33:

Can I assume the Soviets in Kansu will stay put? I think I’ll attack this time.

Yes, that is fine.

[BSD]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 14

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 transports moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java
                ANZAC attack with 4 artilleries and 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    ANZAC roll dice for 4 artilleries and 5 infantry in Java, round 2 :  4/9 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Java, round 2 :  3/7 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 artilleries owned by the Japanese and 3 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                    ANZAC roll dice for 4 artilleries and 2 infantry in Java, round 3 :  0/6 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Java, round 3 :  3/3 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the ANZAC and 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                    ANZAC roll dice for 3 artilleries in Java, round 4 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Java, round 4 :  2/3 hits
                    2 artilleries owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Java, round 5 :  1/3 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17
                Casualties for ANZAC: 4 artilleries and 5 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 factory_minor placed in Queensland
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 17 PUs
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 26 PUs

Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 15

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
                  Germans take Iraq from British

Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                    AA fire in United Kingdom : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 6,3 and causes: 9 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 9 damage total.

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
            22 armour, 10 artilleries, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            2 armour and 15 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Iraq
            2 aaGuns moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries placed in Persia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            1 bomber placed in Western Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 124 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 64 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 98 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AA fire in United Kingdom : : -0.33

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            4 armour, 13 artilleries, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Shensi to Kansu
            1 artillery moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
                  Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Borneo
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kansu
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kansu
            1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 5 transports
                    5 transports owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for ANZAC: 5 transports
            Battle in Borneo
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Borneo, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Borneo
                Japanese win, taking Borneo from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kansu
                Japanese attack with 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 bombers, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 23 infantry; Russians defend with 5 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 bombers, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys in Kansu, round 2 : 14/30 hits, 11.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 28 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 13/29 hits, 10.00 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Japanese, 5 infantry owned by the Russians, 7 artilleries owned by the Japanese, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese and 9 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kansu
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 2 bombers and 5 mech_infantrys in Kansu, round 3 : 5/17 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 14 infantry in Kansu, round 3 : 5/15 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                    3 artilleries owned by the Japanese, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese and 5 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kansu
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 bombers and 3 mech_infantrys in Kansu, round 4 : 3/12 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Kansu, round 4 : 3/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese and 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kansu
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Kansu, round 5 : 5/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Kansu, round 5 : 4/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    2 artilleries owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 armour owned by the Japanese and 5 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kansu
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 armour and 2 bombers in Kansu, round 6 : 2/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kansu, round 6 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Kansu
                Japanese win, taking Kansu from Chinese with 2 armour and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour, 13 artilleries, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 23 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 41 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Shan State
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 aaGun moved from Shensi to Kansu
            2 bombers moved from Kansu to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung
            1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Hopei
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Kweichow
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 bomber moved from Borneo to French Indo China
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 14 artilleries, 16 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            3 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
            3 infantry placed in Shantung

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 70 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0.33
    Americans : 0.50
    Chinese : 3.33
    Japanese : -1.33

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[BSD]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 9 fighters; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            4 fighters moved from 17 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Marianas
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Marianas from Japanese, taking 41 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Paulau Island
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry in Paulau Island, round 2 :  5/8 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Paulau Island, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Paulau Island
                Americans win, taking Paulau Island from Japanese with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            6 fighters moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 3 destroyers moved from 17 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            9 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Egypt

Place Units - Americans
            9 fighters placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 98 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 103 PUs

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[BSD]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 9 fighters; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            4 fighters moved from 17 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Marianas
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Marianas from Japanese, taking 41 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Paulau Island
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry in Paulau Island, round 2 :  5/8 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Paulau Island, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Paulau Island
                Americans win, taking Paulau Island from Japanese with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            6 fighters moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 3 destroyers moved from 17 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            9 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Egypt

Place Units - Americans
            9 fighters placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 98 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 103 PUs

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Suiyuyan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 1 PU; end with 1 PU

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British

Non Combat Move - British
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            4 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 7 artilleries, 35 infantry and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            2 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia

Place Units - British
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            3 fighters placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

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[simon33]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 15

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Egypt

Combat - Italians
            Strategic bombing raid in Egypt
                    AA fire in Egypt : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in Egypt causes 0 damage total.

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            2 aaGuns moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            3 infantry placed in Southern France
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 22 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AA fire in Egypt : : 0.83

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[BSD]

GG WP.  I forgot to leave a blocker for Hawaii and that will give you 6 VCs pac side.  It was a lost cause for the Allies anyway.  I will report it later tonight.

[simon33]

Thanks for the game. Once I could force you back from Iraq Europe victory was only a matter of time too.

[BSD]

The game is recorded.  Care for a rematch?

[simon33]

@BSD:

The game is recorded.  Care for a rematch?

I suppose but I don’t really want to play allies.

[BSD]

Want Axis with the same bid?