Thanks for answering Worsham.
Maine? Interesting. Would have been Massachusetts then. They did go far away (almost Canada, like Marc suggested).
Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)
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CNN proved their incompetence beyond a reasonable doubt when they announced Al Gore as the winner of Florida. You can’t really trust that information.
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Yes, but they were not the only station to call Florida in 2000, M36. Fox, ABC, NBC and CBS all called it too, just CNN called it first.
Anyway, their polling has gotten SLIGHTLY better. At least they didn’t screw up 2004 very badly. (Though CBS still called the election for Kerry before begrudgingly stating that Bush had actually won.)
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if you ever watch the news alot, everyone waits for fox news to proclaim the winner, then they do so about 10 seconds after that.
they have always lost in credibility to fox on who won/lost
remember the 04 election. and the congressional elections. everyone that is close fox news gets it right first. its that republican confidence.
and other than CBS pouting in 04, so did every other news station besides fox. all the pundits were saying “wait, wait, more votes could come in, a miracle could happen,……please”
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They all use the same polling service… they all get the info at the same time. Any difference in “calling” an election is measured in seconds in most cases; unless a specific networks takes the tiem to cross check against their own independent (and usually smaller sample) polling; then they can be delayed in declaring a winner in an abundance of caution for accuracy.
VNS is who they ALL use for their primary exit polling, and they have for YEARS.
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Say goodnight Mitt… Your self-funded race to take power is OVER!
A Centrist and a Fair Tax supporter have cleaned your clock!
Huckabee sweeping the South, McCain in New England and the Midwest… California… IF you can win it, is NOT enough…
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Huckleberry was basically given that one state because McCain knew he could not win it so he pulled a “scorched earth” strategy to deny Huck the goods giving it basically ( and telling his people to get Huck his votes)
Thats hardly anything to brag about. Its like a bacon scrap left over from the lions morning meal.
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It is NOT one state, it is WVA and almost the entire South…
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hey what happens to edwards delegates? and the delegates that other dropouts received? also what happens if you have the most deletes in you party but mot the 50% majority?
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Those delegates are “free to move about the convention” when the DNC or RNC rolls around.
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Schneider: Democrats split by education and age
Posted: 10:11 PM ET(CNN) — Beyond race and gender, national exit polls tonight are showing Democrats a varying divisions based on education and age. The more educated the voter, the more likely he or she is an Obama supporter.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
I think that says a lot about hillary. she is winning the votes by people who don’t really know that much and are just voting because there like I remember when Bill was prez. and everything was good. ( the old people) It seems obama is winning most of the states but hillary is getting the two big ones. He lost New York and is going to lose California. so i’m not sure who’ll come out on top. I think if obama can get 40% of clifornia he’ll have the most delegates today. i just glanced over the results so my predictions are probablly wrong.
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how does edwards have votes? stupid callifornian voting for a dropout. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#CA
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From what I see, it’s about 45% Romney, 50% McCain 5% Huchabee. I don’t think he’s out yet. A lot of those states are ratio states (as opposed to all or nothing.)
Anyway, rather surprised to see Switch rooting for another Bush. I thought you didn’t like Bush?
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how does edwards have votes? stupid callifornian voting for a dropout. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#CA
Absentee ballots sent in months ago, probably.
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It is not “rooting for”… it is rooting AGAINST.
Romney is a serious problem for me, and I am glad to see that his campaign is now effectively over with his loss in California (a state he poured everything into winning)
As for Edwards votes… his name was still on the ballot, and I can see folks wanting another option besides Obama and Hillary…
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@Cmdr:
AFAIK she’s a socialist/communist. (Communist in the mold of China and the Soviet Union; socialist in the mold of the actual definition.)
Ugh, now is a communist! :-P I don’t think she want make the revolution or ban the private property. She is capitalist. As much, she could be socialdemocrat, but she is not near of any socialdemocrat european party in ideology. She is not Shroeder (spelling?), Segolene Royale or Zapatero and sure she is not Chavez, Morales or Jiang Zemin (spelling again?)
I think no one who has socialist or communist ideology can win the USA presidential election. If Rodman were socialist, Obama would win the primaries with no work (of course, if Obama would be socialist too, Mc Cain would have a walk in the park).
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@Guerrilla:
@M36:
We have socialists such as Clinton
Wait… Hillary Clinton… ? Socialist? :-o
She definitely fits the description… Biggest example in my mind at the time: Wasn’t she the one that wanted to instigate a State Run Health Care Program back when her husband was in the White House?
Support for social programs does not a socialist make.
@Cmdr:
AFAIK she’s a socialist/communist. (Communist in the mold of China and the Soviet Union; socialist in the mold of the actual definition.) She wants to seize the pharmaceutical companies and the medical providers and force them to be equitable to everyone (which will result in Americans going to SE Asia and Scandinavia to get medical treatment instead of America accepting Canadians, Europeans, etc here for medical treatment. A faster devaluation
You obviously don’t understand the term or application of socialism or communism. But we can claim Bush and his ilk Nazis and call it even, if you want.
BTW, something MUST be done about our medical sector. Big Pharma has way too much influence in lobbying, kills thousands each year without adequate oversight, and is trying to monopolize YOUR health. Do you want that?
@Cmdr:
That may be true, but McCain is CLAIMING to be Reagan and his RECORD is very close to Bush, only more radical. More radical in support of the military, and more radical in support of democrat style legislation.
The only person I’ve seen claim that they are the new Reagan is Romney. McCain hasn’t done so.
@M36:
CNN proved their incompetence beyond a reasonable doubt when they announced Al Gore as the winner of Florida. You can’t really trust that information.
I don’t think it was incompetence. It was jumping the gun. You do know how close that election was, right?
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Support for social programs does not a socialist make.
Totally agree. A good and simple explanation. :-)
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Support for social programs does not a socialist make.
Totally agree. A good and simple explanation. :-)
Imagine Yoda saying it and it makes it even better. :mrgreen:
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No it doesn’t necessarily, but I was using that as a primary example, not the only one… Nor was I saying that she is the “extreme” form of socialism.
GG
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When the girl says that she wants to TAKE the hospitals and TAKE the pharmaceutical companies and RUN them under the control of the STATE, I think she fits the definition of socialist.
I’m sorry if that causes you to be disillusioned, but remember, to be disillusioned you would first have to be illusioned.
And it’s a shame Romney’s chances are slim now. He can still win, but it’s not highly likely. That means we will have two democrats running for President in November. The “compassionate conservative” democrat John McCain, in the same mold as President Bush; and Hillary Clinton, in the same mold as Joseph Stalin.
Which ever you want. Not saying Bush or Stalin is “bad” or “good.” Just saying that’s how the mainstream conservatives view these two based on their speeches and votes in recent history. (Before 2000 is NOT recent.)
Anyway, I’ll keep an eye on Paul. He might still run 3rd party. Only reason he wouldn’t have quit before now, IMHO.
And no, I am NOT going to change my mind. I will NOT vote for McCain. You can call that a half-vote for the Democrats if you want too. And I’m sure I’m not alone, considering all the phone calls to all the different radio shows and all the letters to all the editors, etc of people like me saying basically the same thing.
There’s a reason why McCain’s only getting votes from republicans who call themselves liberals. It’s because conservatives do not want him to be the standard bearer for the party. We’d rather hope we get enough senators and congressmen in November to stop Hillary.
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