Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    What whacko pollsters were you getting?  Rasmussen and Gallup both had a significant lead for Romney over McCain in Florida.

    Anyway, Illinois has more delegates then Florida and we’re just one of what, 22 states running on Tuesday?


  • @Cmdr:

    What whacko pollsters were you getting?  Rasmussen and Gallup both had a significant lead for Romney over McCain in Florida.

    Anyway, Illinois has more delegates then Florida and we’re just one of what, 22 states running on Tuesday?

    its important because it will give the winers momentum.

  • 2007 AAR League

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080128/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc

    every one that i saw was like this.  McCain ahead or tied


  • @Cmdr:

    What whacko pollsters were you getting?  Rasmussen and Gallup both had a significant lead for Romney over McCain in Florida.

    Anyway, Illinois has more delegates then Florida and we’re just one of what, 22 states running on Tuesday?

    McCain won the only poll in Florida that counts – the actual primary! :mrgreen:


  • Give it up, Jenn.  Romney is a walking corpse.  Nobody but the diehards like yourself actually like him.  Say what you want about McCain – at least he’s not a panderer (okay, every politician panders, but I’m talking degrees here) in the same way Romney is.  Romney will literally say anything to posture himself as a conservative and get elected.  He did the same thing (in the left direction) to get elected governor.  Doesn’t that bother you at least a little?  I think it does most people, certainly here in Florida.  Witness all the endorsements for McCain here (Governor Crist, Senator Martinez) vs. none for Romney.  That should tell you something.


  • Unfortunately, everything you say is true Gamer. For the most part, us Republicans are screwed. We don’t even have a real conservative running as a candidate. The only guy I actually wanted to vote for was Giulliani, but now with him out I am forced to vote for the lesser of the two evils. Huckabee is just a buffoon, so he doesn’t even enter the equation.

    At least the democrats have people who actually represent them, even though they are socialists.


  • so should the endorsements by Bill Clinton and NY Times of McCain. those two speak louder then any others IMO.

  • '19 Moderator

    Where in the world did you hear that Bill Clinton endorsed John McCain?

    As for the New York Times, Who Cares? a hundred papers have endorsed McCain from Right - Boston Herald to Left - New York Times, and every wher in between.


  • when he said that he hopes that McCain gets the nomination because him and Mrs Clinton get along so well, they agree on things, and that it will be a clean campaighn. it sounds a lot like an indorcment to me.


  • Well since my guy Giuliani is out I guess I’ll support McCain.

    See I live in MA. I KNOW Mitt, well, I mean I know him as well as you can know a flip-flopping, always changing carpetbagger from Colorado or was it Michigan?

    Anyways, if your interested, check out some of Mitt’s early debates for senator & governor of the peoples republic of taxachussetts. FYI….I voted for this guy every time he ran here!

    He states in one interview that he’d never want to bring back the Reagan era! Kind of funny after listening to him last night. I’d really like to support this guy but I just don’t know what to believe anymore.

  • '19 Moderator

    @JWW:

    He states in one interview that he’d never want to bring back the Reagan era! Kind of funny after listening to him last night. I’d really like to support this guy but I just don’t know what to believe anymore.

    Nice…


  • @dezrtfish:

    @JWW:

    He states in one interview that he’d never want to bring back the Reagan era! Kind of funny after listening to him last night. I’d really like to support this guy but I just don’t know what to believe anymore.

    Nice…

    Well you need to realize that he was in the midst of a battle against Teddy K but this seems to be Mitt’s theme, tell the people what they want to hear and hope for the best. Didn’t he tell auto workers in Detriot that he would bring their auto making jobs back?!

    The guy will say anything.


  • thats polatics, it’s not what they say, it’s what they do.
    he turned the economy around in MASS, he has the best chance to do the same for the US of the top 3.


  • @Pervavita:

    he turned the economy around in MASS

    He did? And our current deficit and job losses are due to the man who just took over? It was the fastest economic recovery and immediate downturn in US history. The economy turned around on Monday and lapsed into recession on Thursday.  :lol:

    And sitting here in my office in Massachusetts I missed Mitt’s transformation of my states economy?!?

    I wonder why all the MA papers, conservative and liberal are endorsing another candidate? You would think that A paper in my state would have endorse the ex-gov after he performed so well.  :lol:


  • then tell me why this isn’t main stream. if he did so bad, why are the other canadents letting him run on the stance that he is so good for the economy?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Exactly, Gamer.  The man being thrust down the Republican throat is a guy who cannot get anything done in Congress without working only with the Democrats.

    McCain - Lieberman
    McCain - Feingold
    McCain - Kennedy

    That’s a TRUE Conservative - NOT.

    If real republicans get out to vote, not just independents and retired has beens from bygone eras who like to vote for Country-Club, Blue-Blood “social” or “compassionate” conservatives, we’ll get Romney in a landslide.

    In fact, if Huckabee would just give up and get out of the way, McCain would be run not only out of the Presidential Race, but out of Washington DC.


  • @Pervavita:

    then tell me why this isn’t main stream. if he did so bad, why are the other canadents letting him run on the stance that he is so good for the economy?

    It’s not that he did so bad. He was only gov for 2 1/2 years of a four year term when he began forming committees to see if he was going to run for the presidency. His Pro economics are based more on how much money he made in the private sector and turning around the olympics which are all fine and good and REAL accomplishments.

    He did do some good things while gov of the peoples republic of tax-achussetts. He fought corruption, and graft, fought with the D controlled House and senate but he was only here for his political aspirations.

    I voted for the man THREE times. But most Massachusetts republicans such as myself understand that he will say ANYTHING to get elected. And I’d rather stick by a person like Bush who is willing to stand his ground and fights for what he believes in the face of adversary (like McCain) rather than a carpet bagger that has done NOTHING politically and seems willing to say anything to get elected.

  • '19 Moderator

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c3xJdFbJGw
    Mitt is apparently more liberal than Ted Kennedy and Thinks Reagan was apparently bad for the economy.  I don’t think that’s what he said wednesday night at the debate… Things that make you go Hmmm…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUvmWHzqJ0&feature=related
    I wonder who he’s lying to?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    No matter how you voted today, do you usually think of yourself as a: (n=1,457) (Dem, Rep, Ind in that order)
    Hunter    –%    00%    --%
    Paul    --%    02%    09%
    Romney    –%    33%    23%
    Huckabee    –%    15%    11%
    McCain    –%    33%    44%
    Giuliani    –%    16%    13%
    Thompson    --%    02%    --%

    Note, I reformatted that poll from the source in an attempt to make it easier to read on this forum because the table does not transcribe nicely.

    One should notice that McCain is really drawing in the independent voters.  Romney’s getting his fair share of them too, but it’s pretty clear that the majority of McCain’s support are from independents, not Republicans.  (These are the exit polls from Florida, so yes, Independents DID get to vote in the Republican Primary, contrary to the opinions stated further up in this thread.  And not only did they get to vote, but they were the deciding factor.)

    44% of McCain’s votes were from admitted independents.  That’s nearly HALF of all the votes he received.  This is a pretty good indicator that McCain is at the least a moderate at worst a liberal in the eyes of the independents.  This is not surprising, the media is unabashedly liberal and generally only supports liberals, and since just about every media publication out there has endorsed McCain for the Republican nomination (they’ll pull that endorsement when they can chose Hillary or Obama mind you) this supports my claim that McCain is NOT the conservative we need to run the country.

    Furthermore, there is another more telling question:

    On most political matters, do you consider yourself:(n=1,452)
    (Liberal, Moderate, Conservative in that order)
    Hunter    –%    --%    00%
    Paul    03%    06%    02%
    Romney    24%    21%    37%
    Huckabee    11%    08%    17%
    McCain    49%    43%    29%
    Giuliani    13%    21%    13%
    Thompson    –%    01%    02%

    50% liberal, 45% moderate supported McCain!  Only 30%, a very small number in comparison, were people who considered themselves conservative and supported McCain!!!

    Anyway, the reason I like this poll is because, unlike the ones we usually see on this site, this one gives us the question and the sample size!

    Here’s the link.

    http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/30/florida-republican-exit-poll/

    The two polls I referenced above are the last two on the list.

  • 2007 AAR League

    Mitt is a slick dick like santorum.

    and he changes positions more than a slut. :mrgreen:

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