L18 BM3 Adam514 (Axis+3) vs farmboy (Allies) Game 3

[farmboy]

note all the edits.

[farmboy]

Actually, the British fighter on the UK will go on the carrier (if I get you in time) I won’t repost since I see you (or someone) has already downloaded.

[JDOW]

I admit, I don’t get the idea of retreating just to save that damaged Carrier. You had 2 German planes on the hook which you could have killed safely. I think this would have bee my highest priority.

Sorry Adam for talking strategy, I hope my talk is “hindsight” enough so that it does not affect the upcoming game and I doubt we will have another situation like in 112 again in this game.

So I hope it is ok. I would have more to say about this turn but this would definitely be inappropriate.

It’s an interesting game for sure and I always strive to improve to understand a map and whether it is worth fighting for one side or the other.

In the past (Vanilla) I saw position that I thought were lost for the Axis but they managed to get the win. Recently I tended to overestimate Axis positions in BM. In this game I think Axis is past the point they can be stopped but I appreciate giving it a good fight, especially as the situation in Europe is certainly non standards.

[JDOW]

@JDOW:

@farmboy:

I’m assuming its a technical error but thought this might be a special rule in BM?

Yep, this is a special BM rule. Whenever Germans, Italians and Japanese occupy China entirely, the “unholy trinity”-sacrament gets activated creating an immortal Chinese unit that spawns in the Himalaya and that can shoot a rocket each turn PRIOR to the actual Chinese turn. The rocket auto-hits and removes a hostile unit. As this is prior to the Chinese turn, a Chinese inf will spawn in the affected territory in case only one unit occupied it.

The rule was designed to make it harder to hold China in case all Axis powers invaded it. Thus, the Axis need at least 2 units per territory in order to prevent it from spawning guerrillas.

I expect you to acknowledge my late aprils fool joke ;-)

[farmboy]

LOL!

You had me and that needs to be corrected in the map too. Sorry for all the text and corrections Adam

@JDOW:

@JDOW:

@farmboy:

I’m assuming its a technical error but thought this might be a special rule in BM?

Yep, this is a special BM rule. Whenever Germans, Italians and Japanese occupy China entirely, the “unholy trinity”-sacrament gets activated creating an immortal Chinese unit that spawns in the Himalaya and that can shoot a rocket each turn PRIOR to the actual Chinese turn. The rocket auto-hits and removes a hostile unit. As this is prior to the Chinese turn, a Chinese inf will spawn in the affected territory in case only one unit occupied it.

The rule was designed to make it harder to hold China in case all Axis powers invaded it. Thus, the Axis need at least 2 units per territory in order to prevent it from spawning guerrillas.

I expect you to acknowledge my late aprils fool joke ;-)

[Adam514]

Himalayas is the “capital” of China for coding purposes.

I would have traded a carrier for German air for sure.

No worries JDOW, feel free to talk strategy.

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/6 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 infantry and 2 marines moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 2 marines and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 2 marines moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            EDIT: 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Yunnan

Place Units - Italians
            1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy
            2 fighters placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 25 PUs

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[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            2 fighters moved from 30 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 aaGuns moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Queensland to South Australia
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 armour and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            2 fighters moved from 30 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 aaGuns moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Queensland to South Australia
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 armour and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 fighter moved from Norway to Finland

Turn Complete - French
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Himalayas: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[farmboy]

note that I edited out the Chinese inf that I put on Himalayas after falling for JDOW’s rule. LOL.

I agree with you guys on the carrier. I’ll comment more when I have more time, but I got stuck on a certain idea about how things were going to play out that made the carriers a higher priority than the German fighters. Had I been a bit smarter about it, the carriers would have gone first and I would have finished the combat with the US. It would have opened up a possibility for the British too to hit Novgorod.

[JDOW]

Haha, glad I caught you:D

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair damage of 5x factory_major; Remaining resources: 67 PUs;
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Belarus
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Archangel
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            3 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Rostov
            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Samara
            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus
                Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samara, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Samara, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara
                Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Belarus, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Rostov, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Rostov, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Archangel, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Volgograd
            1 bomber moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
            13 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            3 artilleries placed in Volgograd
            Germans undo move 2.
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Volgograd
            6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 4 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 4 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bessarabia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Eastern Poland: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 69 PUs

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[Adam514]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair damage of 5x factory_major; Remaining resources: 67 PUs;
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Belarus
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Archangel
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            3 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Rostov
            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Samara
            3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus
                Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Samara, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Samara, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara
                Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Belarus, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Rostov, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Rostov, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Archangel, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            5 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Volgograd
            1 bomber moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
            13 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            3 artilleries placed in Volgograd
            Germans undo move 2.
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Volgograd
            6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 4 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 4 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bessarabia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Eastern Poland: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Volgograd: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Tsinghai: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novosibirsk to Archangel
            1 armour moved from Russia to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
                  Russians take Bessarabia from Germans
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Archangel
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Archangel, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
                Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Rostov, round 5 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 6 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Belarus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Belarus, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Samara
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Samara, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Samara, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Samara, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara
                Russians win, taking Samara from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia
            2 aaGuns, 6 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Smolensk
            2 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Urals
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Tambov to Smolensk
            1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            Trigger Russians 5 Persia Lend Lease Lane War With Japan: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
    Russians : -3.50

Territory Summary for Russians :

Olgiy : 1 flag
    Dzavhan : 1 flag
    Central Mongolia : 1 flag
    Buyant-Uhaa : 1 flag
    Ulaanbaatar : 1 flag
    Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
    Belarus : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Bryansk : 1 airfield
    Rostov : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Urals : 2 infantry
    Archangel : 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
    Bessarabia : 1 infantry
    Russia : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 6 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 29 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
    Smolensk : 3 armour and 9 mech_infantrys
    Samara : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    113 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 47 / 69
    Russians : 19 / 24
    Japanese : 69 / 74
    Americans : 58 / 78
    Chinese : 0 / 0
    British : 34 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 3
    Italians : 16 / 25
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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[farmboy]

sorry for the delay in posting. The Russia turn itself was fairly simple but I had to figure out what I would likely do with the UK, and US and that took a bit of time.

And JDOW, I knew I was in trouble already, but my position in Russia feels more like a house of cards to me now than it did before. I had figured I was going to be defeated on the pacific front but thought that I could turn it in Europe, but now I think a loss on either side is equally likely.

Regarding that earlier combat with the German fleet and air, I just got stuck with the wrong understanding of what would likely occur. An option I had was to bring the US destroyer, and hope to wipe out the fleet and the subs. This would have created an opening for a British landing in West Germany (with decent if not great odds if Adam scrambled and lost the sea battle to the US). This was tempting. But my odds with the US were lower if I did that and I figured he probably would have not scrambled (making a successful UK landing very unlikely). If he didn’t scramble and I didn’t hit the subs, I was worried that he would be able to counter attack the British/American fleet. My thinking was that since i could use the British air to finish the job I could retreat the US carrier and fighters to reduce that possibility. I forgot, of course, that his air was likely to be the last units destroyed and so any survivors would add more to his attack than the carriers to my defense.  I also thought the carrier is useful later on since it will repair. Hopefully I can make that worthwhile.

[JDOW]

Thanks for sharing your toughts, good stuff.

As you said, I am afraid there is no way the Allies can stop the Axis.
I definitely do not understand how you could not build an IC in Norway, did this one extra bomber make the difference?

As said, I find it extremely hard to make progress against Germany. I believe you have to take big risks in order to so. Invite an attack on the Russian army or try a risky attack on the German stack.

Also, next to trying a landing in Western Europe you might consider to split the Russian forces and secure them with allied air.
Example: In case Finland and Norway are Allied controlled you might have want to try to bring a Russian stack next to Leningrad and try to take that 7 income away from Germany with Russian/US/UK combined forces.

[farmboy]

The IC is coming. You are probably right that it should have happened the first turn I had Norway instead of one bomber and it almost did. But the bombers can reach either theatre, I figured I had enough air in the vicinity of Russia (the possibility of that tank and mech group returning wasn’t as scary to me as it probably should have been), and I was worried about how many bombers I would have left in Europe after the attack on his navy (since the build was prior to the combat I didn’t want to barely wipe out his fleet only to have him immediately in a position to safely rebuild.

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 carriers, 7 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Iwo Jima
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Iwo Jima
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 armour moved from Yunnan to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
            1 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Urals
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Novosibirsk
                  Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Urals
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Evenkiyskiy
                  Japanese take Evenkiyskiy from Russians

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Iwo Jima
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iwo Jima, round 2 :  3/7 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Iwo Jima
                Japanese win, taking Iwo Jima from Americans with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
            Battle in New Guinea
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in New Guinea
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in New Guinea
                Japanese win, taking New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Urals
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Urals, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Urals, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Urals
                Japanese win, taking Urals from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Jehol
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Chahar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Shensi
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Kweichow
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Tsinghai
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 submarine moved from 79 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers and 2 destroyers moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New Guinea to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 18 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iwo Jima to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Japan to French Indo China
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Urals to Timguska

Place Units - Japanese
            2 carriers, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in French Indo China
            3 infantry placed in Malaya
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 74 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

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[farmboy]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 unit repaired.
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 112 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Scotland to Germany
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            3 bombers moved from Eastern United States to 112 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Denmark
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Russians take Vyborg from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Russians take Karelia from Germans
            1 fighter moved from Midway to 17 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 125 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone

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[farmboy]

I’ll need scramble orders for 112.

Note there is a chance that I will reconsider this move but will be looking at it again later (I made it after waking up n the middle of the night and may want to reevaluate my judgement in the morning. Its fair if you don’t want to show your hand on the scramble until I commit. But I wasn’t sure if this was a combat where that would be consequential and figured I would post.