L18 BM3 Adam514 (Axis+3) vs farmboy (Allies) Game 3

[Adam514]

Oh no worries, go ahead. It’s certainly legal if other battles haven’t been rolled, and even if they had I’d let you.

[farmboy]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            3 bombers moved from Eastern United States to 112 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 112 Sea Zone
            3 bombers moved from Bryansk to 112 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Norway to Finland
                  Americans take Finland from Germans
            1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 8 bombers, 2 carriers and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 8 bombers and 4 fighters in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/12 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Americans
                    2 destroyers owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 bombers owned by the Americans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                2 carriers owned by the Americans retreated to 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Americans: 2 bombers and 2 fighters
                Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
                4 fighters owned by the Germans forced to land in Western Germany

Non Combat Move - Americans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
    Americans : -0.33

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[farmboy]

Just posted a game save. You should have 2 tacs and 5 figs. I have 2 figs, 2 damaged carriers and 6 bombers. Have to look up again how to do forum dice. Should be just a couple of minutes.

[farmboy]

practice run through

: dice 6:

[farmboy]

crap. Will look it up again. If you see this and remember feel free to post instructions or start the battle.

[farmboy]

again, just a test.

: dice 6d6:

[farmboy]

I’ve done this before but all the instructions I can find quickly online I think are old. Or I’m just missing something. Will keep looking.

[farmboy]

final test I hope

: dice 6:

[JDOW]

Farmboy, I told Adam before, please let me show you how to run dice properly.

The command you use it ok for convoy rolls, however for battle rolls this goes so much better. Please look at the attached screenshot and see how beautiful and immediately ready for evaluation forum dice could look like ;-)

Rolls: 5@1 2@2 3@3 1@4; Total Hits: 45@1: (6, 6, 3, 2, 1)2@2: (3, 4)3@3: (3, 1, 5)1@4: (1)

This command will throw 6-sided dice - 5 for units that hit on a 1, 2 dice that hit on a 2, 3 dice that hit on a 3, and 1 dice that hits on a 4.

So this would be a throw for 6 infantry, 1 artillery, 3 tanks, and 1 bomber.

[farmboy]

thanks JDOW

[farmboy]

test

Rolls: 5@1 2@2 3@4; Total Hits: 35@1: (1, 5, 3, 6, 4)2@2: (5, 4)3@4: (6, 2, 1)

[farmboy]

beautiful here it is

German subs

Rolls: 3@1; Total Hits: 03@1: (3, 5, 5)

US air

Rolls: 2@3 6@4; Total Hits: 52@3: (2, 3)6@4: (4, 1, 6, 5, 6, 2)

German air

Rolls: 2@3 5@4; Total Hits: 42@3: (3, 4)5@4: (2, 5, 4, 5, 3)

[farmboy]

I have to think about my casualties in relation to the UK turn but probably I’m only taking bombers off. I assume your casualties would be the two tacs and 3 fighters?

[Adam514]

Yeah, but why keep carriers alive?

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            3 bombers moved from Eastern United States to 112 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 112 Sea Zone
            3 bombers moved from Bryansk to 112 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Norway to Finland
                  Americans take Finland from Germans
            1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 8 bombers, 2 carriers and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 8 bombers and 4 fighters in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/12 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Americans
                    2 destroyers owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 bombers owned by the Americans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                2 carriers owned by the Americans retreated to 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Americans: 2 bombers and 2 fighters
                Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
                4 fighters owned by the Germans forced to land in Western Germany

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 112 Sea Zone: 3 bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            2 bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            4 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to 30 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Iwo Jima to 26 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Iwo Jima to 30 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            2 fighters placed in Western United States
            3 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
    Americans : -0.33

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[farmboy]

@Adam514:

Yeah, but why keep carriers alive?

Because of the retreat they are back in 110 and will repair at the end of the turn. I thought the carrier may still be useful to me to support transports or as cannon fodder against your next fleet. :) But I ended up dropping one carrier and keeping a bomber. Its too bad I didn’t make that decision on the first round.

For some reason, the edit took out the bombers with more range. I will be editing again and landing two on Scotland.

[farmboy]

I had a weird glitch on the China Turn. I could build an inf and had the option of placing it in the Himalayas. I’m assuming its a technical error but thought this might be a special rule in BM?

Assuming its just a technical error, there may be a China inf held over that I shouldn’t place, if a China territory becomes open again.

[farmboy]

Sorry for all the comments and corrections. Just thought this was better to say in advance of the UK turn. Landing an inf in Holland that was already on a transport from a previous turn. I would like to drop the art on the transport in the UK. I’m pretty sure that I can’t do that and both units must land in Holland if I want both to be off the transport on this turn. If that is the case, both units will land and I will edit after.

Also 8 air are hitting the transport in 112 and I am assuming no scramble.

[JDOW]

@farmboy:

I’m assuming its a technical error but thought this might be a special rule in BM?

Yep, this is a special BM rule. Whenever Germans, Italians and Japanese occupy China entirely, the “unholy trinity”-sacrament gets activated creating an immortal Chinese unit that spawns in the Himalaya and that can shoot a rocket each turn PRIOR to the actual Chinese turn. The rocket auto-hits and removes a hostile unit. As this is prior to the Chinese turn, a Chinese inf will spawn in the affected territory in case only one unit occupied it.

The rule was designed to make it harder to hold China in case all Axis powers invaded it. Thus, the Axis need at least 2 units per territory in order to prevent it from spawning guerrillas.

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            3 bombers moved from Eastern United States to 112 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 112 Sea Zone
            3 bombers moved from Bryansk to 112 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Norway to Finland
                  Americans take Finland from Germans
            1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 112 Sea Zone
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 8 bombers, 2 carriers and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 8 bombers and 4 fighters in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/12 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.17 expected hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Americans
                    2 destroyers owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 bombers owned by the Americans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                2 carriers owned by the Americans retreated to 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Americans: 2 bombers and 2 fighters
                Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
            Moving scrambled unit from 112 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
                4 fighters owned by the Germans forced to land in Western Germany

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 112 Sea Zone: 3 bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            2 bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Finland
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            4 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to 30 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Iwo Jima to 26 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Iwo Jima to 30 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            2 fighters placed in Western United States
            3 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Combat - Chinese

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 0 PUs

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 destroyers, 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Germany
            3 fighters moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
                  Russians take Caucasus from Italians
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Combat - British
            Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                    AA fire in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 7 and causes: 7 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in Germany causes 7 damage total.
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                British attack with 8 fighters
                Germans defend with 3 submarines and 1 transport
                3 submarines owned by the Germans Submerged
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 8 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - British
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 aaGuns moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            4 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Northwest Persia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to Northwest Persia
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Syria to Egypt

Place Units - British
            1 infantry placed in Persia
            British undo move 1.
            1 infantry placed in Egypt
            2 destroyers and 2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 2 artilleries
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 110 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Holland Belgium: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Norway: 2 bombers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Scotland: 2 bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Iraq: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Himalayas: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3
            UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
    Americans : -0.33
    AA fire in Germany : : -0.17

Territory Summary for Americans, British, Chinese and UK_Pacific :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Iwo Jima : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Marshall Islands : 1 flag
    Marianas : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    India : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 17 infantry
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters and 1 harbour
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 marine
    Midway : 1 airfield and 2 fighters
    30 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
    26 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 tactical_bombers
    Himalayas : 1 infantry
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor
    Gibraltar : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Syria : 1 flag
    Norway : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 2 infantry
    Holland Belgium : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    Russia : 1 fighter
    Caucasus : 1 infantry
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 5 mech_infantrys
    92 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag
    Brazil : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
    Finland : 1 flag, 5 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    110 Sea Zone : 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters and 4 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 72
    Russians : 21 / 25
    Japanese : 69 / 74
    Americans : 58 / 78
    Chinese : 0 / 0
    British : 37 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 3
    Italians : 16 / 25
    ANZAC : 10 / 15
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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