G18L - Caesar's Gaul vs variance (allies +20)

[CaesarsGaul]

I took 2 AA guns for the naval bombard hits.

Normal attack got 13 hits, where do you want the casualties? bombers or infantry?

[variance]

2 french and 11 UK infantry

[CaesarsGaul]

2nd round:

12 more casualties for you to take

[variance]

UK infantry

[CaesarsGaul]

I finished it out just taking UK infantry.

[CaesarsGaul]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 68 PUs;
            Germans buy 1 airfield, 2 armour, 7 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 units repaired.
            3 infantry moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            7 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 11 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 11 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 7 artilleries, 11 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            5 bombers moved from Norway to United Kingdom
            7 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            1 armour moved from Belarus to Romania

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 3 transports
                    3 transports owned by the Americans lost in 109 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Americans: 3 transports
            Battle in Romania
                Germans attack with 2 armour
                Americans defend with 1 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Romania, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour in Romania, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Americans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Romania
                Germans win, taking Romania from Americans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour
            Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 7 artilleries, 12 bombers, 2 fighters, 11 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 2 infantry; British defend with 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 30 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Americans defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 bombers and 3 infantry
                    AA fire in United Kingdom :  4/15 hits
                    2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in United Kingdom, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 7 artilleries, 12 bombers, 11 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in United Kingdom, round 2 :  13/34 hits
                    British roll dice for 5 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 bombers, 35 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in United Kingdom, round 2 :  15/53 hits
                    3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 5 aaGuns owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the French, 11 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 8 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 6 artilleries and 12 bombers in United Kingdom, round 3 :  12/19 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 bombers, 25 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in United Kingdom, round 3 :  10/43 hits
                    4 bombers owned by the Germans, 6 artilleries owned by the Germans and 12 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 8 bombers in United Kingdom, round 4 :  6/9 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 bombers, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in United Kingdom, round 4 :  5/31 hits
                    5 bombers owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 bombers in United Kingdom, round 5 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 bombers, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in United Kingdom, round 5 :  5/25 hits
                    3 bombers owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                British win with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 14 bombers, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -150
                Casualties for French: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 7 artilleries, 12 bombers, 2 fighters, 11 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 5 aaGuns and 28 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 airfield placed in Norway
            2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
            2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs

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[CaesarsGaul]

Good game.

I’m well aware that it’s over

[variance]

yeah even with the Japanese follow up, that fleet is doomed.

Please don’t post the result; I will post after Jan 1 for 2018.

Interested in a rematch, with same bid but flip sides?

[CaesarsGaul]

I won’t post the result, don’t worry. We agreed it was for 2018.

Sure, I’d play again. Allies with +20 works for me.

If you don’t mind, I’d like to ask a few questions. If you don’t want to discuss your strategy, I totally understand, but I’m curious.

1. If I hadn’t missed that french destroyer who blocked the German fleet (Italy SB had killed him), and the Germans followed-up and destroyed the Brit fleet in the med, do you think it would have changed the final outcome? From my vantage point at least, that was the biggest issue I ran across (from things I didn’t expect / plan for).

2. Have you seen a similar strategy run before (Japan -> Europe VCs), and if so how did it do then? I developed my version of this a few years back, and hadn’t had the chance to test it against a good opponent before. I definitely learned lots of issues with it that I’ll have to work on.

[variance]

@Caesar’s:

I won’t post the result, don’t worry. We agreed it was for 2018.

Sure, I’d play again. Allies with +20 works for me.

If you don’t mind, I’d like to ask a few questions. If you don’t want to discuss your strategy, I totally understand, but I’m curious.

1. If I hadn’t missed that french destroyer who blocked the German fleet (Italy SB had killed him), and the Germans followed-up and destroyed the Brit fleet in the med, do you think it would have changed the final outcome? From my vantage point at least, that was the biggest issue I ran across (from things I didn’t expect / plan for).

Way back at the end of round 3 the french destroyer blocked you.  It bought be time to build more fleet in the med, but I don’t think it would have made much difference if I had gone for ground units instead.  UK can put a surprising number of mechs and fighters out of South Africa.  If Germany owned the South France IC instead of Italy, then it might have been a different story.  The strategy of building German fleet and sending it to the med is quite powerful IF Germany also has an IC on the coast (Yugo and Greece are alternatives, but South france IC is free).

2. Have you seen a similar strategy run before (Japan -> Europe VCs), and if so how did it do then? I developed my version of this a few years back, and hadn’t had the chance to test it against a good opponent before. I definitely learned lots of issues with it that I’ll have to work on.

Yes I have seen a few of these “hail mary” strategies, where the axis abandons one side of the world and goes for a FAST win on the other map.  They can work (and they are fun!), but they rely heavily on surprise and they will usually only work once against a particular opponent.  After that he will be on to you.  They come in 6 varieties that I am familiar with:

1. Japan takes India the sends the whole fleet toward Egypt and/or South Africa (which you did)
2. Japan builds an “orange blob” that marches toward Stalingrad (which you also did)
3. Japan sends its whole air force to Russia to SBR, stack, and can opener (you did this too at the end)
4. Germany marches toward Moscow then goes south and makes a beeline for India (i recently did this one against Desert_Admiral)
5. Germany builds carriers in med and goes through Suez and on to the Pacific (slow but VERY effective)
6. Germany sends bombers to Pacific to do can openers (lower cost, still high reward)

I am not really a good opponent.  There are many on this forum who crush me regularly, but its all part of the game.
Putting all 3 of those Japan hail marys together into 1 integrated strategy is pretty advanced, so well done!  :-D

[variance]

so if you want a rematch for 2018 league, what would you like to have for your $20?

[CaesarsGaul]

This might seem a bit familiar:

5 Russian artillery: Novgorod, Belarus, W. Ukraine, Ukraine, and Bryansk.

[variance]

LOL ok on the way!

[variance]

other thread is posted. awaiting scramble orders