G40L17 BM3 Wheatbeer Allies vs Karl Game 4!

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            3 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            2 fighters moved from Vologda to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
                  Russians take Poland from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Romania

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Romania
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Romania, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Romania, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Romania
                Russians win, taking Romania from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 aaGuns, 12 armour, 14 artilleries and 43 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
            2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Poland
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Poland
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            5 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 34 / 42
    Russians : 35 / 45
    Japanese : 49 / 81
    Americans : 59 / 96
    Chinese : 19 / 23
    British : 32 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 15 / 10
    Italians : 13 / 5
    ANZAC : 8 / 0
    French : 1 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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[Karl7]

uuuf, I think you got this…

I don’t think Japan will prevail  :oops:

[Karl7]

BUT!

We must try! TRY TRY!

[wheatbeer]

@Karl7:

uuuf, I think you got this…

I don’t think Japan will prevail  :oops:

I underestimated American power. When I began the American swing to the Atlantic on round 6, I could not image this.

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shantung
            3 armour moved from Manchuria to Shantung
            2 fighters moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            5 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Shantung
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to Shantung
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
                  Japanese take Northern Territory from ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from South Australia to Western Australia
                  Japanese take Western Australia from ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Victoria
                  Japanese take Victoria from ANZAC
            2 battleships and 2 cruisers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Shantung
                Japanese attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Chinese defend with 13 artilleries and 8 infantry
                2 armour retreated to Jehol
                Chinese win with 8 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
                Casualties for British: 2 aaGuns and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 5 artilleries and 8 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Amur
            2 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shantung to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to 6 Sea Zone
            4 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Shantung to Japan
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 5 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            4 transports moved from 18 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            3 armour placed in Manchuria
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Korea
            2 fighters placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Japan
            2 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 80 PUs

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[Karl7]

Got totally diced in Shangtung… as I feared, this game is close enough that the dice are deciding it for the Allies…  :lol:

[wheatbeer]

@Karl7:

Got totally diced in Shangtung… as I feared, this game is close enough that the dice are deciding it for the Allies…  :lol:

I am willing to offering you the average result for the attacker (rounded up that would be 5 survivors), if you are willing to return the favor in a battle of my choosing when I am similarly favored in the odds (i.e. if the Allies defeated despite a 69% chance or greater of victory, same as this battle).

If those terms are good, I would lose all of my Shantung survivors: 8 artillery, 1 tactical bomber (43 IPC of units) and because Japan retreated with 7 units still alive (2 tank, 3 fig, 1 tact, 1 strat), you’d need to delete 2 of those.

Assuming you chose to keep 1 tank, 2 fig, 1 tact, 1 strat, the Battle Score would work out to +13 for Japan … plus you’d gain control of Shantung and collect its 3 IPC.

[Karl7]

@wheatbeer:

@Karl7:

Got totally diced in Shangtung… as I feared, this game is close enough that the dice are deciding it for the Allies…  :lol:

I am willing to offering you the average result for the attacker (rounded up that would be 5 survivors), if you are willing to return the favor in a battle of my choosing when I am similarly favored in the odds (i.e. if the Allies defeated despite a 69% chance or greater of victory, same as this battle).

If those terms are good, I would lose all of my Shantung survivors: 8 artillery, 1 tactical bomber (43 IPC of units) and because Japan retreated with 7 units still alive (2 tank, 3 fig, 1 tact, 1 strat), you’d need to delete 2 of those.

Assuming you chose to keep 1 tank, 2 fig, 1 tact, 1 strat, the Battle Score would work out to +13 for Japan … plus you’d gain control of Shantung and collect its 3 IPC.

wow!  Sure, I’ll take that!  :lol:

You want me to post an edit map?

[wheatbeer]

Sure … you might want to adjust NCM too, if it makes a difference.

[Karl7]

I think I’d sacrifice the tank to keep a ftr and not take the territory

[wheatbeer]

That works too

[wheatbeer]

British would probably kill the tank anyways  :lol:

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shantung
            3 armour moved from Manchuria to Shantung
            2 fighters moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            5 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Shantung
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to Shantung
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
                  Japanese take Northern Territory from ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from South Australia to Western Australia
                  Japanese take Western Australia from ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Victoria
                  Japanese take Victoria from ANZAC
            2 battleships and 2 cruisers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Shantung
                Japanese attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Chinese defend with 13 artilleries and 8 infantry
                2 armour retreated to Jehol
                Chinese win with 8 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
                Casualties for British: 2 aaGuns and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 5 artilleries and 8 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Amur
            2 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shantung to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to 6 Sea Zone
            4 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Shantung to Japan
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 5 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            4 transports moved from 18 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            3 armour placed in Manchuria
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Korea
            2 fighters placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Japan
            2 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 80 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Shantung: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Shantung: 8 artilleries
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Jehol: 2 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Manchuria: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[Karl7]

hmm 1 more NCM change

hold on!@

[Karl7]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shantung
            3 armour moved from Manchuria to Shantung
            2 fighters moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            5 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Shantung
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to Shantung
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory
                  Japanese take Northern Territory from ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from South Australia to Western Australia
                  Japanese take Western Australia from ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Victoria
                  Japanese take Victoria from ANZAC
            2 battleships and 2 cruisers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Shantung
                Japanese attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Chinese defend with 13 artilleries and 8 infantry
                2 armour retreated to Jehol
                Chinese win with 8 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
                Casualties for British: 2 aaGuns and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 5 artilleries and 8 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Amur
            2 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shantung to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to 6 Sea Zone
            4 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Shantung to Japan
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 5 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 18 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            4 transports moved from 18 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            3 armour placed in Manchuria
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Korea
            2 fighters placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Japan
            2 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 80 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Shantung: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Shantung: 8 artilleries
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Jehol: 2 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Manchuria: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 35 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 6 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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[Karl7]

ok, just move a ftr

looks good?

[wheatbeer]

Technically you’ve now made the outcome 6 survivors instead of 5.

Original result left you 7 units, you deleted 2 tanks, but then added 1 fighter.

[Karl7]

@wheatbeer:

Technically you’ve now made the outcome 6 survivors instead of 5.

Original result left you 7 units, you deleted 2 tanks, but then added 1 fighter.

oh, ok, so just delete ftr off carrier in sz6

that makes is right?

[Karl7]

if that’s ok, just delete that extra ftr on USA?

[wheatbeer]

Will do. Will be interesting to see if this makes the difference.

I won’t really be that bummed if you win, because then you’ll stay in tier E and prevent a chain reaction in the rankings  :lol: