Whackamatt (axis) vs dawgoneit (Allies) Combo game!

[dawgoneit]

its looking pretty bleak for me

[Whackamatt]

Game History

Round: 16

Combat Move - Finns
            1 Artillery moved from Oulu to Vyborg
            1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 3 Infantrys and 1 Mech.Inf moved from N.Karelia to Vyborg
            2 Infantrys moved from Helsinki to 24 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from Tampere to Oulu
            2 Infantrys moved from Helsinki to Tampere
            2 Infantrys moved from 24 Sea Zone to Vyborg

Purchase Units - Finns
            Finns buy 1 Bunker and 8 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Finns

Non Combat Move - Finns

Place Units - Finns
            1 Bunker placed in Vyborg
            4 Infantrys placed in Leningrad
            4 Infantrys placed in Helsinki

Turn Complete - Finns
            Finns collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs total

[Whackamatt]

Game History

Round: 16

Combat Move - Romanians
            1 Artillery moved from Odessa to Donetsk
            1 Elite moved from Kiev to Donetsk
            2 Tanks moved from E.Romania to Donetsk
            1 Artillery and 3 Infantrys moved from E.Romania to Vinnytsia
            1 Fighter moved from Bucharest to Donetsk

Purchase Units - Romanians
            Romanians buy 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 3 Infantrys, 1 Tank and 1 Transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Romanians
            Battle in Donetsk
                Romanians attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 2 Tanks
                Russians defend with 1 Infantry and 1 Tank
                Romanians win, taking Donetsk from Russians with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 2 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry and 1 Tank

Non Combat Move - Romanians
            1 Fighter moved from Donetsk to Kiev

Place Units - Romanians
            1 Transport placed in 53 Sea Zone
            1 Artillery and 1 Elite placed in E.Romania
            1 Artillery, 1 Bunker and 2 Infantrys placed in Kiev
            1 Infantry and 1 Tank placed in Bucharest

Turn Complete - Romanians
            Romanians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

[Whackamatt]

Game History

Round: 16

Combat Move - Thai
            4 Artillerys moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand
            4 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys moved from S.Thailand to Burma
            1 Elite moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand

Purchase Units - Thai
            Thai buy 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker and 2 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Non Combat Move - Thai

Place Units - Thai
            1 Bunker placed in S.Thailand
            2 Artillerys and 2 Infantrys placed in Bangkok

Turn Complete - Thai
            Thai collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total

triplea_40480_Tha16.tsvg

[Whackamatt]

I’m still concerned even though I’m up on income. I can mention specific things I thought you could have done to make life miserable for me but didn’t once we’re done.  :-D

I will say, to gain the upper hand you’ll need to be more aggressive than you are. For example, the Dutch had 7 tanks and 2 armored cars that could have attacked Langu-something in southern France. 56% of winning. It’s not about taking everything when you must use a combined 1-2-3 attack with France/Dutch/US moves. It’s about attacking me where I’m weakest. Each turn you delay assaulting souther France (one big area of concern for me), is another turn you’ve given me a repreive where I can buy more bunkers and defensive units.

Instead you took the factory with ONE armored car.  Why not all 7 tanks and 2 armored cars? Then you could even land US fighters there to make it even tougher for me to take back. Make it costly for me to take back. AND, had you done that, I have to use planes that should have gone to the London assault there instead, making my London victory more costly.  PLUS, since I have to use mostly planes to take the territory back, I’ll only liberate it with 1 land unit. Italy can’t reinforce it at all, THEN you have France take it back with 2 tanks and planes.

I try to consider “ALL-IN” moves. For instance, were the roles reversed: If the US brings everything to assault the Italian stack in Morrocco (including brining in 1 marine and 3 inf at the sacrifice of a battle transport and sub/dd), Italy will win, but be down to 26-28 units.  If France attacks on its turn with everything including the 5 fighters in Spain that can make it, it all depends on how much Italy reinforces.  If Italy does nothing, France is guaranteed victory. If I reinforce with what I have, France still wins.  I have 4 transports, but to get you down to a 40-50% chance, I’ve removed all defense from Southern France.  If you continue to push there AND oblierate the stack, I’m now losing ground on two fronts. If I reinforce such that you don’t attack, it’s still a stalemate for me in Africa, while weakening the mainland.

It would be a risky move, but at this point if you feel you’re losing and need to do something, you’ll have to attack.

The same applies for the UK India stack. Thailand has very little money to rebuild and Hisaichi is stretched thin. Whatever stack you attack will be obliterate. Yes, you know I will destroy the stack with whichever force you didn’t kill, HOWEVER, removing the Hisaichi stack would help China out tremendously, right? And the Thailand stack may be needed to help out vs China and not threaten India. Even if the remaining Thai stack moves towards India, with what you have on the board, the 3-4 turns it would take the stack to reach New Delhi, and the amount of units the UK can buy for India, Thai has no chance of taking it. You helped out China with little risk but 2-3 ICs worth of territory.

There could be some downsides about losing other Indian territory or if some of the fights don’t go per the calculator, but they could also come out better than expected. China has the advantage vs Hisaichi forces now, and even more so should the UK help out. Losing London and the temporary monitary lose will sting, but they still have a capital left, meaning the majority of your money post-London fall would place 12 units / round in India. Thai can’t compete with that, nor can Hisaichi.

If you think about production capacity, Thai only places 6 / round, plus 2 hits for a bunker. Hisaichi gets maybe 2 / round plus 2 hits for a bunker. India can place 12 / round, and if they focus on one half vs the other, you can push the front. Once I’m retreating, I won’t be placing bunkers. And with the loss of London, you’ll more likely be purchasing expensive units compared to my infantry only. Hisaichi is stretched thin trying to hold on to three different fronts.

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World At War, version: 2.1.1

Game History

Round: 16

Combat Move - Americans
            20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 2 Bombers, 2 Elites, 46 Infantrys and 7 Tanks moved from N.Algeria to N.Tunisia
            8 Infantrys moved from Leon to La Mancha
            4 Infantrys moved from Portugal to Leon
            1 B.Transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 B.Transports moved from 34 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            11 Infantrys moved from Mauritania to 31 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport and 4 Infantrys moved from 31 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 Destroyer and 2 Submarines moved from 31 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 Elite moved from W.Morocco to 31 Sea Zone
            1 Elite and 7 Infantrys moved from 31 Sea Zone to Andalusia
            4 Infantrys moved from E.Morocco to N.Algeria
            4 Infantrys moved from 42 Sea Zone to N.Tunisia
            1 Carrier, 11 Destroyers, 2 Fighters and 4 Submarines moved from 17 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 Infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Darfur
            1 B.Transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from Salvador to 35 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport and 2 Infantrys moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from French Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
            2 Infantrys moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Sudan
            1 Transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            6 Infantrys moved from Bahia to 32 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from Amazon to 32 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport, 8 Infantrys and 2 Transports moved from 32 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 B.Transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            8 Infantrys moved from 34 Sea Zone to Mauritania
            3 Infantrys moved from Bolivia to Amazon
            3 Infantrys moved from N.Chile to Bolivia
            3 Infantrys moved from Santiago to N.Chile
            2 Infantrys moved from Colombia to Amazon
            2 Infantrys moved from South Atlantic USA to 26 Sea Zone
            11 Infantrys moved from South Central USA to South Atlantic USA
            2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from 32 Sea Zone to Amazon
            1 Infantry moved from Olyokminsk to Bratsk
            2 ArmoredCars moved from Zhigansk to Olyokminsk
            1 Infantry moved from Zhigansk to Olyokminsk
            1 Infantry moved from Kolyma to Zhigansk
            3 S.Submarines moved from 98 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters, 16 S.Submarines and 1 Transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from San Francisco to 83 Sea Zone

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 B.Transport, 16 Infantrys, 5 S.Submarines and 4 Submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 B.Transport, 1 Destroyer and 2 Submarines
                Italians defend with 1 Destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 Submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 Submarine owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 B.Transport, 1 Destroyer and 1 Submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Italians: 1 Destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 Submarine
            Battle in N.Tunisia
                Americans attack with 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 2 Bombers, 2 Elites, 50 Infantrys and 7 Tanks
                Italians defend with 1 AAGun, 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 77 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters
                    AA fire in N.Tunisia :  1/2 hits
                    1 Bomber owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 1 Bomber, 2 Elites, 50 Infantrys and 7 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 2 :  19/89 hits
                Units damaged: 1 Bunker owned by the Italians
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 77 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 2 :  32/94 hits
                    18 Infantrys owned by the Italians and 32 Infantrys owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 1 Bomber, 2 Elites, 18 Infantrys and 7 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 3 :  14/57 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 59 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 3 :  26/76 hits
                    14 Infantrys owned by the Italians, 18 Infantrys owned by the Americans, 6 ArmoredCars owned by the Americans and 2 Elites owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 14 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 1 Bomber and 7 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 4 :  14/31 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 45 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 4 :  25/62 hits
                    14 Infantrys owned by the Italians, 14 ArmoredCars owned by the Americans, 9 Artillerys owned by the Americans and 2 Tanks owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 1 Bomber and 5 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 5 :  4/6 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 31 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 5 :  19/48 hits
                    4 Infantrys owned by the Italians, 1 Bomber owned by the Americans and 5 Tanks owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                Italians win with 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 27 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -185
                Casualties for Italians: 50 Infantrys
                Casualties for Americans: 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 2 Bombers, 2 Elites, 50 Infantrys and 7 Tanks
            Battle in 87 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters, 19 S.Submarines and 1 Transport
                Hisaichi defend with 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 1 S.Submarine, 1 Submarine and 4 Transports; Yamamoto defend with 10 Adv.Fighters, 6 B.Carriers, 1 B.Transport, 1 Battleship, 4 Carriers, 9 Destroyers, 13 Fighters, 1 L.Fighter, 7 S.Submarines and 6 Submarines
                    Americans roll dice for 19 S.Submarines in 87 Sea Zone, round 2 :  11/19 hits

triplea_40480_Ame16.tsvg

[dawgoneit]

11 sub hits in sz87.
ool please.

[Whackamatt]

The standard OOL should work with two caveats: lose Hisaichi stuff before Yamamoto’s, and keep 1 destroyer around until your last sub is dead.

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War, version: 2.1.1

Game History

Round: 16

Combat Move - Americans
            20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 2 Bombers, 2 Elites, 46 Infantrys and 7 Tanks moved from N.Algeria to N.Tunisia
            8 Infantrys moved from Leon to La Mancha
            4 Infantrys moved from Portugal to Leon
            1 B.Transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 B.Transports moved from 34 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            11 Infantrys moved from Mauritania to 31 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport and 4 Infantrys moved from 31 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 Destroyer and 2 Submarines moved from 31 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 Elite moved from W.Morocco to 31 Sea Zone
            1 Elite and 7 Infantrys moved from 31 Sea Zone to Andalusia
            4 Infantrys moved from E.Morocco to N.Algeria
            4 Infantrys moved from 42 Sea Zone to N.Tunisia
            1 Carrier, 11 Destroyers, 2 Fighters and 4 Submarines moved from 17 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 Infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Darfur
            1 B.Transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from Salvador to 35 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport and 2 Infantrys moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from French Sudan to French Equatorial Africa
            2 Infantrys moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Sudan
            1 Transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            6 Infantrys moved from Bahia to 32 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from Amazon to 32 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport, 8 Infantrys and 2 Transports moved from 32 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 B.Transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            8 Infantrys moved from 34 Sea Zone to Mauritania
            3 Infantrys moved from Bolivia to Amazon
            3 Infantrys moved from N.Chile to Bolivia
            3 Infantrys moved from Santiago to N.Chile
            2 Infantrys moved from Colombia to Amazon
            2 Infantrys moved from South Atlantic USA to 26 Sea Zone
            11 Infantrys moved from South Central USA to South Atlantic USA
            2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from 32 Sea Zone to Amazon
            1 Infantry moved from Olyokminsk to Bratsk
            2 ArmoredCars moved from Zhigansk to Olyokminsk
            1 Infantry moved from Zhigansk to Olyokminsk
            1 Infantry moved from Kolyma to Zhigansk
            3 S.Submarines moved from 98 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters, 16 S.Submarines and 1 Transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 87 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from San Francisco to 83 Sea Zone

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 B.Transport, 16 Infantrys, 5 S.Submarines and 4 Submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 B.Transport, 1 Destroyer and 2 Submarines
                Italians defend with 1 Destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 Submarines in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 Submarine owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 B.Transport, 1 Destroyer and 1 Submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Italians: 1 Destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 Submarine
            Battle in N.Tunisia
                Americans attack with 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 2 Bombers, 2 Elites, 50 Infantrys and 7 Tanks
                Italians defend with 1 AAGun, 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 77 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters
                    AA fire in N.Tunisia :  1/2 hits
                    1 Bomber owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 1 Bomber, 2 Elites, 50 Infantrys and 7 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 2 :  19/89 hits
                Units damaged: 1 Bunker owned by the Italians
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 77 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 2 :  32/94 hits
                    18 Infantrys owned by the Italians and 32 Infantrys owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 1 Bomber, 2 Elites, 18 Infantrys and 7 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 3 :  14/57 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 59 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 3 :  26/76 hits
                    14 Infantrys owned by the Italians, 18 Infantrys owned by the Americans, 6 ArmoredCars owned by the Americans and 2 Elites owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 14 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 1 Bomber and 7 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 4 :  14/31 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 45 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 4 :  25/62 hits
                    14 Infantrys owned by the Italians, 14 ArmoredCars owned by the Americans, 9 Artillerys owned by the Americans and 2 Tanks owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                    Americans roll dice for 1 Bomber and 5 Tanks in N.Tunisia, round 5 :  4/6 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 31 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters in N.Tunisia, round 5 :  19/48 hits
                    4 Infantrys owned by the Italians, 1 Bomber owned by the Americans and 5 Tanks owned by the Americans lost in N.Tunisia
                Italians win with 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite, 27 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -185
                Casualties for Italians: 50 Infantrys
                Casualties for Americans: 20 ArmoredCars, 9 Artillerys, 2 Bombers, 2 Elites, 50 Infantrys and 7 Tanks
            Battle in 87 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters, 19 S.Submarines and 1 Transport
                Hisaichi defend with 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 1 S.Submarine, 1 Submarine and 4 Transports; Yamamoto defend with 10 Adv.Fighters, 6 B.Carriers, 1 B.Transport, 1 Battleship, 4 Carriers, 9 Destroyers, 13 Fighters, 1 L.Fighter, 7 S.Submarines and 6 Submarines
                    Americans roll dice for 19 S.Submarines in 87 Sea Zone, round 2 :  11/19 hits
                Units damaged: 1 Battleship owned by the Yamamoto and 1 Battleship owned by the Hisaichi
                    Yamamoto roll dice for 8 S.Submarines and 7 Submarines in 87 Sea Zone, round 2 :  9/15 hits
                Units damaged: 7 B.Carriers owned by the Americans and 1 Battleship owned by the Americans
                    Americans roll dice for 11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters and 1 Transport in 87 Sea Zone, round 2 :  19/49 hits
                Units damaged: 6 B.Carriers owned by the Yamamoto
                    Yamamoto roll dice for 10 Adv.Fighters, 6 B.Carriers, 1 B.Transport, 2 Battleships, 4 Carriers, 10 Destroyers, 13 Fighters, 1 L.Fighter and 4 Transports in 87 Sea Zone, round 2 :  29/51 hits
                7 B.Carriers owned by the Americans, 13 Fighters owned by the Americans, 1 S.Submarine owned by the Hisaichi, 1 B.Transport owned by the Yamamoto, 1 Transport owned by the Americans, 1 Destroyer owned by the Hisaichi, 1 Submarine owned by the Hisaichi, 4 Destroyers owned by the Americans, 5 Carriers owned by the Americans, 4 Transports owned by the Hisaichi, 6 Submarines owned by the Yamamoto and 8 Destroyers owned by the Yamamoto lost in 87 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 19 S.Submarines in 87 Sea Zone, round 3 :  10/19 hits
                    Yamamoto roll dice for 7 S.Submarines in 87 Sea Zone, round 3 :  5/7 hits
                    1 Cruiser owned by the Americans lost in 87 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 11 Adv.Fighters, 1 Battleship, 1 Fighter and 6 L.Fighters in 87 Sea Zone, round 3 :  10/19 hits
                    Yamamoto roll dice for 10 Adv.Fighters, 6 B.Carriers, 2 Battleships, 4 Carriers, 1 Destroyer, 13 Fighters and 1 L.Fighter in 87 Sea Zone, round 3 :  20/37 hits
                6 S.Submarines owned by the Americans, 7 S.Submarines owned by the Yamamoto, 11 Adv.Fighters owned by the Americans, 1 B.Carrier owned by the Yamamoto, 1 Fighter owned by the Americans, 10 Fighters owned by the Yamamoto, 6 L.Fighters owned by the Americans and 2 Carriers owned by the Yamamoto lost in 87 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 13 S.Submarines in 87 Sea Zone, round 4 :  5/13 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 Battleship in 87 Sea Zone, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                    Yamamoto roll dice for 10 Adv.Fighters, 5 B.Carriers, 2 Battleships, 2 Carriers, 1 Destroyer, 3 Fighters and 1 L.Fighter in 87 Sea Zone, round 4 :  14/24 hits
                13 S.Submarines owned by the Americans, 2 B.Carriers owned by the Yamamoto, 1 Fighter owned by the Yamamoto, 1 Battleship owned by the Americans, 2 Carriers owned by the Yamamoto and 1 Battleship owned by the Hisaichi lost in 87 Sea Zone
                Yamamoto win with 10 Adv.Fighters, 3 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 2 Fighters and 1 L.Fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -307
                Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 1 S.Submarine, 1 Submarine and 4 Transports
                Casualties for Americans: 11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters, 19 S.Submarines and 1 Transport
                Casualties for Yamamoto: 3 B.Carriers, 1 B.Transport, 4 Carriers, 8 Destroyers, 11 Fighters, 7 S.Submarines and 6 Submarines
            Battle in 87 Sea Zone
                Yamamoto defend with 10 Adv.Fighters, 3 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 2 Fighters and 1 L.Fighter
                Yamamoto win with 10 Adv.Fighters, 3 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 2 Fighters and 1 L.Fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -307
                Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Battleship, 1 Destroyer, 1 S.Submarine, 1 Submarine and 4 Transports
                Casualties for Americans: 11 Adv.Fighters, 7 B.Carriers, 1 Battleship, 5 Carriers, 1 Cruiser, 4 Destroyers, 14 Fighters, 6 L.Fighters, 19 S.Submarines and 1 Transport
                Casualties for Yamamoto: 3 B.Carriers, 1 B.Transport, 4 Carriers, 8 Destroyers, 11 Fighters, 7 S.Submarines and 6 Submarines
                2 Adv.Fighters owned by the Yamamoto, 4 Fighters owned by the Yamamoto and 2 L.Fighters owned by the Yamamoto forced to land in Wake

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 Infantrys and 2 S.Submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys moved from 98 Sea Zone to Pearl Harbor

Place Units - Americans
            3 S.Submarines placed in 98 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 1.
            3 Submarines placed in 98 Sea Zone
            5 S.Submarines and 1 Submarine placed in 83 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 2.
            Americans undo move 1.
            3 Submarines placed in 31 Sea Zone
            1 B.Transport placed in 26 Sea Zone
            2 S.Submarines and 1 Submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
            3 S.Submarines placed in 83 Sea Zone
            2 Infantrys placed in Salvador
            3 Infantrys placed in Santiago
            2 Infantrys placed in Colombia
            2 Infantrys placed in South Atlantic USA
            7 Infantrys placed in South Central USA

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 118 PUs; end with 118 PUs

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[Whackamatt]

Game History

Round: 17

Combat Move - Germans
            8 Artillerys, 7 Elites, 4 HeavyTanks and 14 Infantrys moved from Manchester to London
            1 ArmoredCar, 3 Artillerys and 14 Infantrys moved from Dover to London
            1 Infantry moved from Wales to London
            3 Stukas moved from Normandy to London
            1 Submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            5 Fighters moved from Manchester to 17 Sea Zone
            9 Adv.Fighters moved from Netherlands to London
            1 Submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 Destroyers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 Artillerys, 2 Elites and 2 Infantrys moved from Brest to Minsk
            4 Infantrys moved from Warsaw to Brest
            2 Infantrys moved from Brittany to Aquitaine
            1 Infantry moved from Orleanais to Aquitaine
            1 Infantry moved from Normandy to Orleanais
            2 Artillerys moved from Burgundy to Languedoc
            2 Elites and 5 Infantrys moved from Lorraine to Burgundy
            8 Infantrys moved from Paris to Orleanais
            2 Infantrys moved from Bohemia to Krakow
            3 Artillerys, 2 Elites and 6 Infantrys moved from Krakow to Vinnytsia
            2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 3 Infantrys moved from Vinnytsia to Kiev
            2 ArmoredCars moved from Kiev to Rostov
            4 Stukas moved from Kiev to Rostov
            3 Infantrys moved from Danzig to Brest
            1 ArmoredCar moved from Kiev to Minsk

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 8 ArmoredCars, 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Destroyers, 1 Elite, 2 Factorys, 13 Infantrys, 1 Stuka and 1 Submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 11 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 Submarine
                British defend with 1 Destroyer
                Germans win with 1 Submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 Destroyer
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 5 Fighters
                British defend with 1 Battleship and 1 Destroyer
                Germans win with 3 Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 2 Fighters
                Casualties for British: 1 Battleship and 1 Destroyer
            Battle in Aquitaine
                Germans attack with 3 Infantrys
                French defend with 1 Factory; Dutch defend with 1 ArmoredCar
                Germans win, taking Aquitaine from French with 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 Infantrys
                Casualties for Dutch: 1 ArmoredCar
            Battle in 20 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 Destroyers and 1 Submarine
                British defend with 1 Destroyer
                Germans win with 2 Destroyers and 1 Submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 Destroyer
            Battle in London
                Germans attack with 9 Adv.Fighters, 1 ArmoredCar, 11 Artillerys, 7 Elites, 4 HeavyTanks, 29 Infantrys and 3 Stukas
                British defend with 1 AAGun, 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Factory, 33 Infantrys and 14 Tanks
                3 Adv.Fighters owned by the Germans lost in London
                2 Adv.Fighters owned by the British and 2 Artillerys owned by the Germans lost in London
                Germans captures 55PUs while taking British capital
                Germans win, taking London from British with 6 Adv.Fighters, 4 Elites, 4 HeavyTanks and 3 Stukas remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Germans: 3 Adv.Fighters, 1 ArmoredCar, 11 Artillerys, 3 Elites and 29 Infantrys
                Casualties for British: 2 Adv.Fighters, 33 Infantrys and 14 Tanks
            Battle in Rostov
                Germans attack with 2 ArmoredCars and 4 Stukas
                Russians defend with 1 HeavyTank
                Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 2 ArmoredCars and 4 Stukas remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 HeavyTank
            Battle in Minsk
                Germans attack with 1 ArmoredCar, 2 Artillerys, 2 Elites and 2 Infantrys
                Russians defend with 5 Infantrys
                Germans win, taking Minsk from Russians with 2 Artillerys and 1 Elite remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 ArmoredCar, 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 5 Infantrys

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 Fighters moved from 17 Sea Zone to Munster
            4 Cruisers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            5 Transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            5 Infantrys moved from Picardy to 20 Sea Zone
            4 Infantrys moved from Belgium to 20 Sea Zone
            4 Cruisers, 9 Infantrys and 5 Transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            9 Infantrys moved from 19 Sea Zone to Aquitaine
            3 Battleships, 3 Carriers, 4 Destroyers, 2 S.Submarines and 4 Transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 Infantry moved from Scotland to Manchester
            6 Adv.Fighters moved from London to Wales
            4 Stukas moved from Rostov to Kiev
            3 Stukas moved from London to Wales

Place Units - Germans
            2 Destroyers and 1 Submarine placed in 20 Sea Zone
            1 Bunker and 1 Factory placed in Languedoc
            1 Factory placed in Orleanais
            8 ArmoredCars placed in Paris
            4 Infantrys placed in Warsaw
            3 Infantrys placed in Danzig
            5 Infantrys placed in Bohemia
            1 Artillery and 1 Elite placed in Brittany
            1 Artillery and 1 Infantry placed in Wales
            1 Stuka placed in Hamburg

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 141 PUs; end with 196 PUs total

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[dawgoneit]

i am sorry for the delay.
i will do my turn soon.
very busy,

[Whackamatt]

hope you didn’t break your foot like entek!  :-D

No worries here.  It usually gets spotty around the holidays, so my turns may stop for a few days next week myself.

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War, version: 2.1.1

Game History

Round: 17

Combat Move - Russians
            5 Infantrys moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
            5 Infantrys moved from Georgia to Rostov
            2 Infantrys moved from Astrakhan to Georgia
            1 Elite moved from Smolensk to Novgorod
            56 Infantrys moved from S.Karelia to Vyborg
            22 Infantrys moved from Olyokminsk to Irkutsk

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 Elite and 37 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Vyborg
                Russians attack with 56 Infantrys
                Germans defend with 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 4 Infantrys; Finns defend with 1 AAGun, 2 Artillerys, 4 Bunkers, 1 Elite, 7 Infantrys and 1 Mech.Inf
                    Russians roll dice for 56 Infantrys in Vyborg, round 2 :  11/56 hits
                Units damaged: 4 Bunkers owned by the Finns
                    Finns roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 4 Bunkers, 2 Elites, 11 Infantrys and 1 Mech.Inf in Vyborg, round 2 :  9/22 hits
                    4 Infantrys owned by the Germans, 9 Infantrys owned by the Russians and 3 Infantrys owned by the Finns lost in Vyborg
                    Russians roll dice for 47 Infantrys in Vyborg, round 3 :  11/47 hits
                    Finns roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 4 Bunkers, 2 Elites, 4 Infantrys and 1 Mech.Inf in Vyborg, round 3 :  3/15 hits
                    3 Infantrys owned by the Russians, 4 Infantrys owned by the Finns, 2 Artillerys owned by the Finns, 1 Elite owned by the Finns, 1 Mech.Inf owned by the Finns, 2 Artillerys owned by the Germans and 1 Elite owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg
                    Russians roll dice for 44 Infantrys in Vyborg, round 4 :  9/44 hits
                    Finns roll dice for 4 Bunkers in Vyborg, round 4 :  3/4 hits
                    3 Infantrys owned by the Russians and 4 Bunkers owned by the Finns lost in Vyborg
                Russians win, taking Vyborg from Finns with 41 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44
                Casualties for Germans: 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 4 Infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 15 Infantrys
                Casualties for Finns: 2 Artillerys, 4 Bunkers, 1 Elite, 7 Infantrys and 1 Mech.Inf
            Battle in Rostov
                Russians attack with 10 Infantrys
                Germans defend with 2 ArmoredCars
                    Russians roll dice for 10 Infantrys in Rostov, round 2 :  0/10 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 ArmoredCars in Rostov, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 10 Infantrys in Rostov, round 3 :  0/10 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 ArmoredCars in Rostov, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 10 Infantrys in Rostov, round 4 :  1/10 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 ArmoredCars in Rostov, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    1 ArmoredCar owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                    Russians roll dice for 10 Infantrys in Rostov, round 5 :  0/10 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 ArmoredCar in Rostov, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 10 Infantrys in Rostov, round 6 :  1/10 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 ArmoredCar in Rostov, round 6 :  0/1 hits
                    1 ArmoredCar owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 10 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 ArmoredCars
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 1 Elite
                Germans defend with 2 Tanks
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Elite in Novgorod, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 Tanks in Novgorod, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    1 Elite owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win with 2 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 Elite
            Battle in Irkutsk
                Russians attack with 22 Infantrys
                Hisaichi defend with 2 ArmoredCars, 4 Infantrys, 8 Mech.Infs and 2 Tanks
                    Russians roll dice for 22 Infantrys in Irkutsk, round 2 :  3/22 hits
                    Hisaichi roll dice for 2 ArmoredCars, 4 Infantrys, 8 Mech.Infs and 2 Tanks in Irkutsk, round 2 :  6/16 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi, 6 Infantrys owned by the Russians and 2 ArmoredCars owned by the Hisaichi lost in Irkutsk
                    Russians roll dice for 16 Infantrys in Irkutsk, round 3 :  0/16 hits
                    Hisaichi roll dice for 3 Infantrys, 8 Mech.Infs and 2 Tanks in Irkutsk, round 3 :  3/13 hits
                    3 Infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Irkutsk
                13 Infantrys retreated to Olyokminsk
                Hisaichi win with 3 Infantrys, 8 Mech.Infs and 2 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Hisaichi: 2 ArmoredCars and 1 Infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 9 Infantrys

Non Combat Move - Russians
            6 Infantrys moved from Sibirsky to Evenkia
            6 Infantrys moved from Evenkia to Bratsk
            1 Infantry moved from Sverdlovsk to Surgut
            1 Infantry moved from Chimkent to Karaganda
            1 Infantry moved from Chimkent to Alma Ata
            1 Infantry moved from Tashkent to Chimkent
            1 Infantry moved from Sverdlovsk to Novosibirsk
            3 Infantrys moved from Sverdlovsk to Perm
            5 Infantrys moved from Perm to Kirov
            5 Infantrys moved from Kirov to Vologda
            1 Infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk
            9 Infantrys moved from Yaroslavl to S.Karelia
            5 Infantrys moved from Vologda to S.Karelia
            1 AAGun and 10 Infantrys moved from Moscow to Yaroslavl
            1 Elite and 3 Infantrys moved from Arkhangelsk to S.Karelia

Place Units - Russians
            6 Infantrys placed in Sibirsky
            1 Elite and 2 Infantrys placed in Kursk
            5 Infantrys placed in Stalingrad
            3 Infantrys placed in Georgia
            10 Infantrys placed in Moscow
            4 Infantrys placed in Arkhangelsk
            5 Infantrys placed in Sverdlovsk
            2 Infantrys placed in Tashkent

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 75 PUs; end with 75 PUs

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[Whackamatt]

Game History

Round: 17

Combat Move - Italians
            1 unit repaired.
            4 Infantrys moved from Languedoc to 43 Sea Zone
            4 Infantrys moved from Provence to 43 Sea Zone
            1 Battleship, 1 Carrier, 2 Cruisers, 6 Destroyers, 8 Infantrys, 2 Submarines and 5 Transports moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            8 Infantrys moved from 42 Sea Zone to N.Algeria
            1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 27 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters moved from N.Tunisia to N.Algeria
            1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys moved from S.Tunisia to S.Algeria
            3 Mech.Infs moved from Hun to Darfur
            3 Infantrys moved from Kufra to Darfur
            8 Infantrys moved from Nubia to Darfur
            1 Infantry moved from Nubia to Kordofan
                  Italians take Kordofan from British
            1 Infantry moved from Nubia to Italian East Africa
                  Italians take Italian East Africa from French
            1 JetFighter moved from Lower Egypt to 58 Sea Zone
            1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            5 Infantrys moved from Cairo to Lower Egypt
            5 Infantrys moved from Lower Egypt to Nubia
            4 ArmoredCars and 1 HeavyTank moved from Lombardy to Languedoc
            4 Infantrys moved from Tunis to N.Tunisia

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 ArmoredCars, 2 Artillerys, 19 Infantrys and 4 Mech.Infs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Italians
            Battle in S.Algeria
                Italians attack with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys
                French defend with 1 Elite
                Italians win, taking S.Algeria from French with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 Elite
            Battle in Darfur
                Italians attack with 11 Infantrys and 3 Mech.Infs
                French defend with 1 Infantry and 6 Tanks; Americans defend with 1 Infantry
                Italians win, taking Darfur from British with 1 Infantry and 3 Mech.Infs remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for French: 1 Infantry and 6 Tanks
                Casualties for Italians: 10 Infantrys
                Casualties for Americans: 1 Infantry
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 Battleship, 1 Carrier, 2 Cruisers, 6 Destroyers, 2 Submarines and 5 Transports
                Americans defend with 1 B.Transport, 1 Destroyer and 1 Submarine
                Units damaged: 1 Battleship owned by the Italians
                1 B.Transport owned by the Americans, 1 Submarine owned by the Italians, 1 Destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 Submarine owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 Battleship, 1 Carrier, 2 Cruisers, 6 Destroyers, 1 Submarine and 5 Transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Italians: 1 Submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 B.Transport, 1 Destroyer and 1 Submarine
            Battle in N.Algeria
                Italians attack with 1 Adv.Fighter, 12 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 35 Infantrys and 2 JetFighters
                French defend with 1 AAGun, 19 Infantrys and 18 Tanks; Americans defend with 4 Infantrys
                Italians win, taking N.Algeria from French with 1 Adv.Fighter, 3 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 JetFighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for French: 19 Infantrys and 18 Tanks
                Casualties for Italians: 9 Artillerys, 35 Infantrys and 1 JetFighter
                Casualties for Americans: 4 Infantrys
            Battle in 58 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 JetFighter
                British defend with 2 Transports
                British win with 2 Transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Italians: 1 JetFighter

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 Adv.Fighter moved from N.Algeria to 42 Sea Zone
            1 JetFighter moved from N.Algeria to 42 Sea Zone
            3 Infantrys moved from S.Tunisia to S.Algeria
            1 AAGun moved from N.Tunisia to S.Algeria

Place Units - Italians
            3 Mech.Infs placed in Hun
            2 ArmoredCars placed in Syria
            1 Mech.Inf placed in Tunis
            4 Infantrys placed in Provence
            1 Artillery and 1 Infantry placed in Tunis
            1 Artillery and 5 Infantrys placed in Cairo
            5 Infantrys placed in Lombardy
            4 Infantrys placed in Rome

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 81 PUs; end with 81 PUs total

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[dawgoneit]

i think we’re done here. :-P

[Whackamatt]

:-D  Let me know and we can start two more!

I’ll tell you one thing you could have done that might have thrown the balance in your favor……

The entire game I was dreading the moment when you moved the Australian fleet East and then up and over to join the US fleet.  All Yam’s navy was holding off the US, with a token force to protect against transports.

Had you switched to all land defense as Australia and moved your fleet up and around, I couldn’t counter them and the US fleet and would slowly lose islands.  Once it was clear you weren’t going to break throw, you should have combined navies. That would have been 32 extra hits that I would have had to contend with, block from moving and you’d have had a follow up to the US assault, or they could have dived in first to give you 100% odds.

Don’t know how it would have gone if you did, but I think the Pacfici would have been more up in the air with that new threat.

[dawgoneit]

we can start any time.