A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
Germany dows on russia, cruiser on transport, does it stop it loading up?
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germany dows on russia, cruiser on transport, does it stop loading up? Like can I load onto the transports and unload for combat?
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I am sure I can load and offload the round I dow, but if I start doing J2 or J3 dows again for whatever reason, I need the link for new players to show or a quote with page number for rules.
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If I understand your question correctly, you’re wondering if you can load a German transport in the same sea zone as a Russian Cruiser on the same turn as you DOW. Right? If so then yes you can. If it is Germany doing the DOW then it is allowed to load the transport before the DOW on the same turn. It says that exact same thing in the rule book but I don’t have it in front of me right now to give you a page number.
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This is absolutely legit. There is a special rule clarification in the book for this under declaring war.
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Correct, quote from the rulebook is in the FAQ-thread:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=28562.msg1689157#msg1689157 -
But doesn’t that also mean that because you share a sea zone with your enemy, you are required to engage them unless you leave it?
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@Caesar:
But doesn’t that also mean that because you share a sea zone with your enemy, you are required to engage them unless you leave it?
The “Sea Units Starting in Hostile Sea Zones”-rules apply.
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@Caesar:
But doesn’t that also mean that because you share a sea zone with your enemy, you are required to engage them unless you leave it?
Sort of true. Just that you are able to load units before leaving it. So the exception is of no use if you want to land on a territory which you already own.
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