2017LG40 Regular Karl7(axis) v. Stuck Tojo (Allies +17)

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese buy 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 11 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Japanese
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 7 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
                1 armour moved from India to West India
                      Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific
                1 armour moved from West India to India

    Combat - Japanese
                Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 7 destroyers, 3 fighters, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                    Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 7 destroyers, 3 fighters, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                    Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese win with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Battle in Midway

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
                4 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
                4 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                3 bombers moved from Kiangsu to Japan
                1 fighter moved from Shantung to Japan
                1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                3 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Hunan
                2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
                8 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Burma
                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to 33 Sea Zone
                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
                1 factory_minor placed in Korea
                1 submarine and 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
                6 infantry placed in Japan
                3 infantry placed in French Indo China
                2 infantry placed in India
                1 bomber placed in Kiangsu

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 70 PUs; end with 70 PUs total
                Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
                Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs

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  • WTF!  Stop impersonating me Kurl8!!

    It’s probably your chrome browser auto-field that’s messing you up!  If you can’t handle it, go back to using Netscape and stop roping me in your loser games!

    GRRRRR!  If you were here, I would benchpress you though the roof!!!

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 3 bombers, 2 destroyers, 6 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Americans
                1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                2 bombers moved from Iceland to Scotland
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iceland to 123 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 123 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 119 Sea Zone to Scotland
                2 fighters moved from 123 Sea Zone to Scotland
                1 destroyer moved from 123 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Iceland to 125 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
                Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                    Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                    Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                    Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                    Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Battle in Scotland
                    Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 airfield and 2 infantry
                    Americans win, taking Scotland from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
                2 bombers moved from Scotland to Iceland
                1 fighter moved from Scotland to 123 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to French West Africa
                2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 123 Sea Zone to Iceland
                2 transports moved from 117 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
                3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
                1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 submarines and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to Alaska
                1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - Americans
                6 infantry placed in Eastern United States
                Americans undo move 1.
                4 infantry placed in Eastern United States
                3 bombers and 2 infantry placed in Western United States
                2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
                Americans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
                Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
                Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
                Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Chinese
                Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Chinese
                1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
                      Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese
                8 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
                1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
                2 infantry placed in Yunnan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
                Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

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    TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Combat Move - British
                1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to West India
                      UK_Pacific take West India from Japanese
                1 armour moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
                2 fighters moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia
                1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
                1 battleship moved from 24 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

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    what about ncm?

  • 19 17 16

    @Karl7:

    what about ncm?

    :-D

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Combat Move - British
                1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to West India
                      UK_Pacific take West India from Japanese
                1 armour moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
                2 fighters moved from Egypt to Eastern Persia
                1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
                1 battleship moved from 24 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

    Combat - British

    Non Combat Move - British

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
                2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
                1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk
                2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tobruk

    Combat - Italians
                Battle in Tobruk
                    Italians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 armour
                    Italians win, taking Tobruk from Russians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 armour

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                2 fighters moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
                2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Italians
                3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
                1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
                Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
                Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 96 Sea Zone: 1 transport
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 95 Sea Zone: 1 transport
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
                ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - ANZAC
                1 armour moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
                      Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese

    Combat - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt
                1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
                2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from New South Wales to Queensland
                1 armour and 2 fighters moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Iraq
                1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5
                ANZAC collect 12 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs total

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 11

    Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 12

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 2 artilleries and 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 119 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
                1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 105 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
                1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
                1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                1 bomber moved from Germany to Baltic States

    Combat - Germans
                Battle in 119 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 fighter
                    Americans defend with 1 transport
                    Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
                Battle in 105 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                    Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans win, taking 105 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                    Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Battle in Romania
                    Germans attack with 4 artilleries and 10 infantry
                    Russians defend with 3 armour
                    Germans win, taking Romania from Russians with 4 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 3 armour
                Battle in Scotland
                    Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                    Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 artillery
                    Germans win, taking Scotland from Americans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery
                Battle in Baltic States
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Eastern Poland
                    Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                    Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
                1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
                2 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                1 bomber moved from 105 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                1 fighter moved from 119 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                2 fighters moved from Scotland to United Kingdom

    Place Units - Germans
                3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
                2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany
                4 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 12

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 2 artilleries and 15 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 119 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
                1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
                1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 105 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
                1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
                1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
                1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                1 bomber moved from Germany to Baltic States

    Combat - Germans
                Battle in 119 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 fighter
                    Americans defend with 1 transport
                    Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
                Battle in 105 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                    Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans win, taking 105 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                    Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Battle in Romania
                    Germans attack with 4 artilleries and 10 infantry
                    Russians defend with 3 armour
                    Germans win, taking Romania from Russians with 4 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 3 armour
                Battle in Scotland
                    Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                    Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 artillery
                    Germans win, taking Scotland from Americans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery
                Battle in Baltic States
                    Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Eastern Poland
                    Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                    Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                    Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
                1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Poland
                2 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
                1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                1 bomber moved from 105 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                1 fighter moved from 119 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                2 fighters moved from Scotland to United Kingdom

    Place Units - Germans
                3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
                2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany
                4 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Poland: 8 infantry
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Slovakia Hungary: 8 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Poland: 3 artilleries
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Slovakia Hungary: 3 artilleries
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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    OK.  Good game.  I’ll post it.

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    Oh, Ok… I thought you were going to see if I dropped the ball on Hawaii…

    But I think Japan can probably overwhelm it.

    That was a tight game.  Not sure if I was going to hold London.  I got lucky there, and that was probably the turning point…  :-P

    GG!

  • 19 17 16

    Well, I was going to, but I started the attack on Romania and couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn and you couldn’t miss.  To hell with it; I just quit at that point.

    If you’re up for a re-match later on let me know.  Right now I’m going to give it a rest for a bit.  This last one hurt really bad…. almost as much as the one before that.  :-P

  • 22 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 12

    @StuckTojo:

    Well, I was going to, but I started the attack on Romania and couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn and you couldn’t miss.  To hell with it; I just quit at that point.

    If you’re up for a re-match later on let me know.  Right now I’m going to give it a rest for a bit.  This last one hurt really bad…. almost as much as the one before that.   :-P

    Cool, hit me up whenever….

    I think if you retook UK a couple turns ago and then went full pacific w/US I would have been in big trouble…

    There was no way I was ever going to threaten Russia in the foreseeable future.

  • 19 17 16

    Yes.  I had shitty luck in that UK London battle, but I should have waited one more round, so that I at least could have had better odds, and a plan B in case I got shitty dice.  Oh well, that was really the first time I’ve had to contend with a sea lion.  It’s not as easy for the US to deal with as everyone makes it out to be.

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