I have bid units to Japan before. An armor in Kwangtung is particularly effective and with a 9 bid like at tripleA, I’d even be inclined to place 1 inf in each of the 3 Asian territories.
German Naval Build Round 1
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@ncscswitch:
Germany has a choice when it comes to Navy…
Go heavy, or surrender the seas…
The only time I can see otherwise is if Germany gets a bid of 8 and adds a tpt in the baltic
then buying a tpt on G1 is worth while. -
If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…
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If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…
I remember trying that lol. It was really funny to see Germany sailing into the heart of Africa along the west coast, and also Germany sinking the UK bb/tran + Russian sub in the other case lmao. It wasn’t terribly advantageous in the long run though in my experience, but I didn’t try it often enough to feel conclusive about it.
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@ncscswitch:
If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…
I will not take axis for less than 8 ipc, the tripleA ladder rules says 9.
With 9 ipc it’s about 50-50 win/loss.
I guess most ppl play with axis bid down, I estimate axis bid below 6 means axis must be better player(s),
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Thanks Lucifer. I must be a pretty good player then… I win 2 out of 3 games, and almost every game has been a bid of 8 or less (one as low as 4) :-D
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@ncscswitch:
If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…
I used to think that too, until someone put the tpt in sz5 on me and I hated what it made me do for Russia round 1.
With 2 sz5 tpts, UK can be lost on G1. I am not too happy giving Germany a 42% chance of taking out London.
Russia must take out Norway to kill a ftr and/or put 1 ftr in London.
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There are other, BETTER, ways to prevent a G2 Sea Lion than either Norway or a Russian FIG to London; even against a MASSIVE number of German TRNs in SZ5.
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Someone tried the sealion against me a few weeks ago, with 5 trans G1.
It’s not difficult to counter if you have calculated this scenario before.
Sealion didn’t happen this time, I lost because of other reasons, but this made me think
about possibillities that I didn’t know existed before that game.
I made several errors which helped me lose the game because I had not thought about what do if……?
I guess now I would be happy (as allies) if G bought 5 trans, 5 trans G1 will help Russia more than Germany. -
5 TRN G1 are 10 INF and 2 TANK less for Germany
Sealion with 5 TRN is 10 Less infantry for Germany.
20 if LESS and 2 TANK Less on G2 is German ready to be assailed by Russia (alone!)Then 5 TRN in G1 means Germany being assailed by Russia…. mmmm I dislike 5 TRN in G1! :-D
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I had someone bid 8 IPC for a submarine in SZ 8 on me before. I solved that problem by taking Norway with Russia on R1. End of threat to the British fleet. Havn’t worked out the odds on if I was really lucky or not, but it’s possible to solve their bid and neutralize their effectiveness.
Anyway, the transport in SZ 14 is a favorite of mine. 3 Infantry in Ukraine as well, since it all but forces Russia to leave you with fighters. (Momma loves fighters! And rockets, but fighters too!)
To be realistic, however, I think Germany should be happy if they get two units for Libya/Ukraine which is to say, about a 6 or 7 IPC bid. At least against opponents on this board.
If you are playing people at AAMC, you can realistically expect to win bids (FIDA) of 18-22 IPC on a pretty regular basis.
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@ncscswitch:
There are other, BETTER, ways to prevent a G2 Sea Lion than either Norway or a Russian FIG to London; even against a MASSIVE number of German TRNs in SZ5.
who said G2?
I said Germanys FIRST turn
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I dislike setting up my board to have the game determined by a dice roll on G1 that has a 38% chance of clearing London
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@ncscswitch:
I dislike setting up my board to have the game determined by a dice roll on G1 that has a 38% chance of clearing London
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What are you talking about?
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@ncscswitch:
I dislike setting up my board to have the game determined by a dice roll on G1 that has a 38% chance of clearing London
It’s 16% for sealion victory with lowluck.
32% with reg dice. -
If the AA gun doesn’t get any hits, it’s 32% with lowluck, and 45%-46% with reg dice…. :mrgreen:
How bout some short games??? :-D :lol: 8-) -
And if you lose the gamble, you end up with Germany pretty much toast.
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Not to mention America’s gunna liberate England and Geramny’s still pretty much toast.
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If Germany fails in sealion, then Germany is dead. Usually, and granted that G got all ftrs killed in the attempt.
But if Germany takes london and 30 ipc from UK, then there’s no hope for allies.We might start a discussion on weather allies can recover, even when US can recapture London.
I don’t think 1 out 10 times is an interesting debate. Maybe the number is 1 out of 50 times, that allies can win if sealion succeds.1. G gets 30 ipc, + 8 for London.
2. UK cant buy for one turn. UK lose 2 rnds because if this.
3. Nearly all UK ground units in Northern Europe are killed.
4. US lose 1 rnd in Europe to take back London.
5. Depending on how big fleet G has, either with sealion G1 or G2, US+UK needs to stack London
to prevent two sealion’s in the same game….
6. Fill in plz.I really don’t se the problem if G place an 8 bid trans in Baltic.
If G attempts sealion, then you win about 70% of the those games.
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If G attempts sealion, then you win about 70% of the those games.
That is if sealion G1. G2, that’s another story.My dice sim says 42% chance of taking UK.
And I don’t think Germany is TOAST if they fail on a sea lion G1
What have they lost if they fail?
Germany trades 2 inf, 2 tanks for 2 inf, art, tank
They traded 2 ftrs and a bomber for 2 ftrs and a bomberIf things go really bad, they can always w/d and save a plane or two or three….
You people are pretty cavalier about losing your capital.
Capital loss is punished pretty hard in A&A (some say too hard)We should discuss (perhaps another thread) G1 Sea lion …
what happens if it fails
what happens if it succeeds.As Germany, depending on how well/poorly Russia did attacking Germany, I would/would not attack London.
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Let’s ask THESE QUESTIONs then
What are the axis odds of winning with $8 bid?
Greater than 42%?~OR~
Germany has a 42% chance of taking out Moscow…. do you go for it?
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